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Shotgun Wing-T
« on: February 05, 2012, 04:18:57 PM »
Coaches,

I was looking at this video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iY9tFz9-0Yg

Anybody run a package from their wing t with this formation?


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Re: Shotgun Wing-T
« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2012, 09:27:24 PM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iY9tFz9-0Yg

Anybody run a package from their wing t with this formation?

You don't need another formation to run that, just snap thru the QB's legs.  (Their QB is your FB & vice versa.)

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Re: Shotgun Wing-T
« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2012, 10:56:51 PM »
I  nasty the TE and split the WB a little further. Think of DCWT. I also bring in X tight, nasty, or over. H can be on either side of the QB.

My base...


.....X.................T...G..C..G..T........Y
.......................................B.....................Z
.........................H......Q

H sweep right with both guards and B leading was our best play. Also ran Z jet out of this, also with both guards and B leading.

I'm going to make a few changes to it for next season.

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Re: Shotgun Wing-T
« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2012, 11:18:09 PM »
I  nasty the TE and split the WB a little further. Think of DCWT. I also bring in X tight, nasty, or over. H can be on either side of the QB.

My base...


.....X.................T...G..C..G..T........Y
.......................................B.....................Z
.........................H......Q

H sweep right with both guards and B leading was our best play. Also ran Z jet out of this, also with both guards and B leading.

I'm going to make a few changes to it for next season.


Whoa!  I think I need to add a DCWT call for that formation!

Any suggestions?
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Re: Shotgun Wing-T
« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2012, 08:39:09 AM »
How about "gun" , "packer" (gb packers use this formation and variations at times)
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Re: Shotgun Wing-T
« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2012, 11:59:28 AM »
Whoa!  I think I need to add a DCWT call for that formation!

Any suggestions?

If you have read any of my other posts, you'll know that I used this right down to the DCWT splits. Basically, HB sweep, QB power, QB counter and WB reverse. If you move HB over, can run QB sweep, QB blast, QB power and WB reverse. Typical single wing stuff.

I have run Z jet, but may change it to Z rocket to relieve some congestion in front of the QB.

Essentially, think of wildcat type stuff.

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Re: Shotgun Wing-T
« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2012, 12:42:58 PM »
I wonder if today there are some teams coming at this from the other direction, i.e. modifying their single wing by putting a back under center.  In the 1960s & early 1970s I knew of several HS teams (varsity & JV) plus one of adult men and another of women coming out in either unbalanced single wing or unbalanced wing T by altering whether their QB was under center or at BB.  My preference is to have only one position for the QB/BB where the snap can go to either him or the deep backs.

The main difference I see between this wildcat/shotgun stuff and single wing/short punt/etc. is that in one the player gets the snap flat footed and in the other he steps into it.  For the read/choice/option and pass-heavy systems it makes sense to snap to a stationary player, but otherwise I think that's a waste of time.

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Re: Shotgun Wing-T
« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2012, 12:47:13 PM »
I like that as a "wrinkle".

Vince - do you have any plays drawn up?  I would be especially interested in some new passing plays to augment the base DCWT goodies.

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Re: Shotgun Wing-T
« Reply #8 on: February 06, 2012, 04:23:44 PM »
Whoa!  I think I need to add a DCWT call for that formation!

Any suggestions?


we ran this 2 yrs ago with the "bb" on the left- it was a championship game addition that we ran in addition to your UBSW.  we called it Lazer

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Re: Shotgun Wing-T
« Reply #9 on: February 06, 2012, 04:55:08 PM »
I like that as a "wrinkle".

Vince - do you have any plays drawn up?  I would be especially interested in some new passing plays to augment the base DCWT goodies.

I'm redoing some things, but yes, I do. If someone can explain how to post them on here, I can put some up. I have them in MS Publisher.

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Re: Shotgun Wing-T
« Reply #10 on: February 06, 2012, 07:34:28 PM »
Here's the basic sweep...

If you don't think that your tackle can make the pull block or there's a lot of blitzing through A gap, then C can block down and LG can pull to cut off A gap. Last year, I did what DCWT had suggested, having wing motion going through RT/TE gap. This year, I want to change it to get more down blocking on the edge.






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Re: Shotgun Wing-T
« Reply #11 on: February 06, 2012, 07:41:37 PM »
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Re: Shotgun Wing-T
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Re: Shotgun Wing-T
« Reply #13 on: February 06, 2012, 08:01:54 PM »
Here's the basic sweep...

If you don't think that your tackle can make the pull block or there's a lot of blitzing through A gap, then C can block down and LG can pull to cut off A gap. Last year, I did what DCWT had suggested, having wing motion going through RT/TE gap. This year, I want to change it to get more down blocking on the edge.




What's the footwork for the LT and the C?
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Re: Shotgun Wing-T
« Reply #14 on: February 06, 2012, 08:24:34 PM »
What's the footwork for the LT and the C?

The C is just trying to cut block. The tackle has to belly a little to cut off the A gapper. Same pulling technique as guards which is what Lombardi had his tackle do in GB sweep. I have them step with playside foot at 45 and crossover. He said that the LT had the hardest block to make. Now if your splits are tighter, you can do what Steve has them do which seems, at least from what I read in his free newsletter, to basically lay out across both gaps. Steve, you can correct me there if I'm wrong on the exact technique.