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QB Progression
« on: March 22, 2010, 11:58:46 PM »
Coaches, on a previous post i brought up the idea of having the QB look for certain -high %- routes to throw to on the snap. ie slant,short in/out etc. What are your thoughts on this and what would you have your QB look for?
I was also thinking of training my wrs on a short call if the "off" defender ran at them on the snap to throw up their inside arm and cut inside of him on a skinny post like pattern. If he retreats keeping his cushion then they make their short in cut as called. thoughts?
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Re: QB Progression
« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2010, 09:39:52 AM »
Coach Belebuch:

I truly believe in the one receiver theory at any level less than 8th grade.  Too many reads equals too much time and a sack. To that point, I think that any route you run has to be delivered in less than 2.5 seconds.  As a Coach you must design routes that accommodate this philosophy and allows your QB to be successful. Note I did not say one kid!!  I said one receiver per play and that can be anyone you have in a particular formation. 

At this age I am a fan of speed outs, curls and comebacks.  They are shorter, higher percentage throws that eat up yards and can make up for a lack of a running game or open one up for you.
Your inclination for coverage takes time to learn but it is the right idea.  In other words if A, then B.  Again you have to keep in mind that you have to design the routes to be efficient and within his ability. 

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Re: QB Progression
« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2010, 09:02:16 PM »
Coaches, on a previous post i brought up the idea of having the QB look for certain -high %- routes to throw to on the snap. ie slant,short in/out etc. What are your thoughts on this and what would you have your QB look for?


He's already looking at the highest % pass before the ball is snapped.




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I was also thinking of training my wrs on a short call if the "off" defender ran at them on the snap to throw up their inside arm and cut inside of him on a skinny post like pattern. If he retreats keeping his cushion then they make their short in cut as called. thoughts?
He's even - I'm leavin'
He's droppin' - I'm stoppin'
He crosses me - I cross him


That's a fast way to get yourself in trouble.  The QB does not know the receiver is going to do this.  He's going to throw to the open area or run.  If your guy changes his route, the QB is throwing at empty grass or an INC.  And, if your receiver cuts towards another defender to get away from the first, and your QB throws to him, that's an INT.

If you run the offense long enough, you can (and probably will) be able to add things like this but I would not add them until you either have to or you're getting bored.  Right now, you can play any kid that can throw at QB - no brains required.  He just looks for the open area and then who is signaling he's running to it.  When you start having him read a defender that's called NCAA.
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Re: QB Progression
« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2010, 09:40:36 PM »
Clark,
        Youre right, I told you this long offseason is getting to me   ;D

Probably more bad/strange ideas to come. I know i know.....Stick to the manual.

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Re: QB Progression
« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2010, 06:47:03 PM »
Best advice I ever received on progression reads.

Receivers long & short - read FROM long TO short.

Receivers dispersed laterally & WR on in-breaking route - read from INSIDE-OUT.

Receivers dispersed laterally & WR on out-breaking route  read from OUTSIDE-IN.

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Re: QB Progression
« Reply #5 on: September 04, 2011, 03:59:00 PM »
In Youth Football:
Progression should be -
1.  Pre-snap Read.  Safeties should tell the QB where the weakness is in the D & that combined with corner alignment will tell if man or zone coverage (example - MOFO, MOFC).  Based on this - there should be one receiver based on his pattern or matchup with the defense that is the best to throw to.

A coach can make the call for primary receiver from the sideline - if the QB is not able to.  Checkoffs can be implemented, but only at an advanced level.

2.  Post-snap Primary Receiver to check down throw.  (This can only be done with a superior line that can pass block - or a shotgun with a quick minded QB.)  Using 1 above - if not open - can throw to a RB or perhaps TE drag.

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Re: QB Progression
« Reply #6 on: September 05, 2011, 08:42:08 PM »
We used to tell the WR's to run their routes like they were they primary WR. This way no one would "half-ass" it and cause an INC or an INT. The key is for the QB and WR to see the same thing. The QB sees it before the snap and believes it during the throw.