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Offline Dimson

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Re: Where am I supposed to get a kicker?
« Reply #15 on: January 27, 2013, 04:04:52 PM »
First things first...I don't know how to train a kicker.... but I don't even try.  One of the first things I do when we start every years as part of "Football Schools"  is try every kid out at kicker/punter and snapper.  You should be able to find two or three of each simply by telling them to do it how ever they feel comfortable.  I do give pointers on snapping but I was a center and know the ins and outs of it. I have done this at every level and have been fortunate to find the best of all three by letting the whole team try for it.  The kid that is afraid of his own shadow might be your best punter
Every kid wants to kick the ball. This is exactly how I find my kicker. Just turns out that almost always it is one of our big legged linemen that end up being our kickers. Toe and go.

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Re: Where am I supposed to get a kicker?
« Reply #16 on: January 27, 2013, 04:14:10 PM »
This year,  I had a kid that would "old school" kick it.  Just one catch, he would only do it with his shoe off.  Could kick a 35 yarder.   I called the head ref in this area and he was stumped if it was legal.   It is illegal according to NFHS rules.  So I "trained" him to do it with his shoe on.   Once he realized he could do it (pretty sure it was mental about not being able to do it with a shoe on..) he was pretty good at it.

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Re: Where am I supposed to get a kicker?
« Reply #17 on: January 27, 2013, 04:16:11 PM »
This year,  I had a kid that would "old school" kick it.  Just one catch, he would only do it with his shoe off.  Could kick a 35 yarder.   I called the head ref in this area and he was stumped if it was legal.   It is illegal according to NFHS rules.  So I "trained" him to do it with his shoe on.   Once he realized he could do it (pretty sure it was mental about not being able to do it with a shoe on..) he was pretty good at it.
That is the only way I teach it. It generates more power and is very accurate from straight on.

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Re: Where am I supposed to get a kicker?
« Reply #18 on: February 24, 2013, 03:17:45 AM »
Recruit a Soccer player?  :-)

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Re: Where am I supposed to get a kicker?
« Reply #19 on: March 01, 2013, 12:39:06 AM »
First week of conditioning we would have everyone punt the ball. We would keep track, and before practice, we would have the ones with some talent practice kicking from a tee, etc. Eventually we would widdle it down to a punter, FG and kicker. 3 if needed.

Usualy the socce kids would get the job.

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Re: Where am I supposed to get a kicker?
« Reply #20 on: March 01, 2013, 11:51:02 AM »
The problem seems to be that kicking is such a specialty that few coaches invest the time in learning how to coach kicking form, and then the time in actually coaching it.

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Re: Where am I supposed to get a kicker?
« Reply #21 on: March 02, 2013, 02:50:52 PM »
The problem seems to be that kicking is such a specialty that few coaches invest the time in learning how to coach kicking form, and then the time in actually coaching it.
Nothing really to teach if you do toe kicking. Just need a kid with a big(physically) and a kid who can hold the ball on a good angle. The hardest part is the snap and the blocking, the kicking is cake.

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Re: Where am I supposed to get a kicker?
« Reply #22 on: March 03, 2013, 01:11:28 AM »
Nothing really to teach if you do toe kicking. Just need a kid with a big(physically) and a kid who can hold the ball on a good angle. The hardest part is the snap and the blocking, the kicking is cake.
No, there's a lot to it, or everybody'd be doing it.  I could never get height on the ball because of my short heel cords, and I'm sure there are others with the same problem; you need to be able to hold the foot at enough of a degree of dorsiflexion, not toed down.

Of course for those with my problem, the drop kick is still an option.

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Re: Where am I supposed to get a kicker?
« Reply #23 on: March 03, 2013, 09:14:55 AM »
No, there's a lot to it, or everybody'd be doing it.  I could never get height on the ball because of my short heel cords, and I'm sure there are others with the same problem; you need to be able to hold the foot at enough of a degree of dorsiflexion, not toed down.

Of course for those with my problem, the drop kick is still an option.
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Re: Where am I supposed to get a kicker?
« Reply #24 on: March 03, 2013, 10:23:22 PM »
???
To get under the ball as an alternative to place kicking.

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Re: Where am I supposed to get a kicker?
« Reply #25 on: March 04, 2013, 08:09:36 AM »
To get under the ball as an alternative to place kicking.
??? was because why would you be kicking in a youth game?

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Re: Where am I supposed to get a kicker?
« Reply #26 on: March 04, 2013, 08:27:45 AM »
Most kicked extra points in youth leagues are 2 points. Most youth teams can't kick for the extra point. We can, usually. If we go up 16 and the other team can't kick we are now up 3 scores. Even if we miss one the other team has to make both conversions to tie. That's why. It is not that hard to get a kid to complete about 60%. You just need reps. Anything over 51% and you are ahead.

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Re: Where am I supposed to get a kicker?
« Reply #27 on: March 04, 2013, 08:39:13 AM »
What I wrote up on my blog about the kicking game:
http://www.winningyouthfootball.com/wp-blog/?p=3226

I USED to be a toe punching advocate at the youth level-
But Ive been converted after going to some of the Kohls kicking presentations- and buying their DVDs
Just like anything- there are a few key fundamentals you can use to dramatically improve your kickers starting with the placement foot positioning

Note- if you have a kid who is 70% toepunching dont change a thing- but these guys really know what they are doing
My 5-6 grade kicker is attending their camp in Omaha this year- pricey but amazing camp
However beautiful the strategy, you should occasionally look at the results.

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Re: Where am I supposed to get a kicker?
« Reply #28 on: March 04, 2013, 11:32:03 AM »
I had a 8 year old who could toe kick it 30 yards. He only missed if the ball was not held at the proper angle. Other than that he crushed it. He had never kicked or even played football until last season.

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Re: Where am I supposed to get a kicker?
« Reply #29 on: March 04, 2013, 02:39:55 PM »
We seem to always get toe kickers.   That seems to miss a lot more then I would like.   I don't usually coach special teams, but I have.   

I prefer soccer style when I coach special teams (which isn't that often) because you can control the ball and it's more accurate.

I am self taught so I have no idea if I am doing it just right.   I learned by walking out to a football field with a tee and seeing which is the best way I could do it personally.

 I just teach a good plant spot (depending on size of kid) with off foot a little behind and to the side of the football.   You want to strike the meat of the ball a little lower then center every time with your instep.   Be sure to follow through so you are crow hopping forward a little after the kick.   Keep your eye on your sweet spot and visualize the ball going through the uprights.   You are guiding it off your foot like a golf club.

Take three steps and kick (from back and to the side) measure the steps by kicking air and take the same three steps every time.   Plant in same spot every time.   

That's it.   Just do exact same thing every time with same routine and get tons and tons of reps.

Make sure you learn to flop too if the league allows rushers.