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Offline MannyJ

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Punting from the DC Wing-T formation
« on: August 17, 2013, 06:59:34 PM »
I thought I would try punting from the Wing-T formation but have a question.  If the QB is in motion at the time of the snap, how is the WB supposed to crack down on the right defensive end?  The formation requires the WB to be in motion in order to have any shot at the DE.  How does this contradiction get resolved?  Thanks in advance for the responses.

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Re: Punting from the DC Wing-T formation
« Reply #1 on: August 17, 2013, 08:43:36 PM »
The WB would not go into motion on the play, only the QB.

If you not running the DC Wing T offense, but want to run the three plays from DC Punt (Punt, 23 Kick and Pass to the QB) move the WB in a few steps, maybe 1x1 off the TE.
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Re: Punting from the DC Wing-T formation
« Reply #2 on: August 17, 2013, 09:11:20 PM »
We would have the WB in at 1 x 1 like mentioned. Tell the refs ahead of time about the punt. We were told your QB can't put hands under center then go in motion. We had him stand a foot back from the center, set then go in motion.
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Re: Punting from the DC Wing-T formation
« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2013, 12:13:45 AM »
I would be punting from the DC Wing-T.  We have a lot of rookies on my 9 thru 12 year old team.  I'm trying to keep consistent spacing on my formations so I was curious to see if there were any solutions besides changin the WB alignment to 1 x 1.

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Re: Punting from the DC Wing-T formation
« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2013, 02:48:16 AM »
Are you running DCWT this year Manny?

How about running it from "Backs Over"?  QB kicks DE, WB performs the HB's block. This may even widen the PSDE.  HB can block or chip block the DE then release down field.
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Re: Punting from the DC Wing-T formation
« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2013, 09:51:04 AM »
John
Is DC punt in the manual?
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Re: Punting from the DC Wing-T formation
« Reply #6 on: August 18, 2013, 10:12:58 AM »
This is my first time with the DC Wing-T.  I'm very curious to see how it works.  My question comes from reading Clark's explanation of the punt:  the QB goes into motion to his left.  When he gets to the LT the FB calls out "hit" and the ball is snapped.  The QB takes the left DE and the WB cracks back on the right DE.  No mention of adjusting the formation.  Clark's drawing conveniently has the DE lining up wide enough outside of the TE to make a crack block possible, but I find that highly unlikely to happen.

This playbook is huge and right now I'm trying to install vanilla stuff before going hog-wild with formations and adjustment, so I wanted to install the punt without making a bunch of adjustments.

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Re: Punting from the DC Wing-T formation
« Reply #7 on: August 18, 2013, 11:52:42 AM »
Yes,

Most of the DCWT diagrams have the DE one yard outside the TE. Since the TE is in a 3 pt stance and not standing up, he would be considered the EMLOS. While I have never asked him, I assume it was drawn that way becuase he faced good coaching which aligns a defense properly or per some alignment rule his opponents read.  The idea is with the WB cracking down on the DE through his track that the DE takes enough of a pounding that his play become ineffective.  Two things should occur, the coach tells the DE or the DE moves himself outside the TE.

Back to your reply.  If a DE or OLB is sitting in the C-gap you can always add in the Sweep cue (which has the TE block the defender nearest to him) and then move upfield on the FS/PR.  Since the FB is getting the ball, the second half of the Sweep cue would not apply (FB blockers any defender covering the TE).

Noone is going to stop your from creating an adjustment cue. If you feel the DE is going to get to the FB on this play create a new cue, maybe NEAR to tell the TE to do what I mentioned above.  Adjustments are part of the game.
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Re: Punting from the DC Wing-T formation
« Reply #8 on: August 23, 2013, 04:18:42 PM »
I dont punt very much from it
But we dont see a problem with the blocking the DEs

Here is a play where the safety didnt move with QB motion so he got the pass from the FB

Hard to see behind the awning sorry but you see the result
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Re: Punting from the DC Wing-T formation
« Reply #9 on: August 23, 2013, 04:44:05 PM »
What's a punt???? ;D
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