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Offline Bob Goodman

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Re: How huge is it in youth to have a KILLER kicker???
« Reply #15 on: August 24, 2013, 01:13:17 PM »
I would bet most youth leagues kick for 2 as it is a much harder conversion unless you actually spend some time on it.
I know of 2 leagues where the kick is worth 3, a pass 2, and a run 1.

What I don't know (or remember) is whether any are giving more points for a FG during regular play.  6 man scoring used to be 4 for goal, 2 for kicked PAT, 1 for TD on PAT.  ISTR a youth league with a 5 point goal, but that might be my imagination.

If they went by degree of difficulty in youth football, they'd give more for a FG than a TD.

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Re: How huge is it in youth to have a KILLER kicker???
« Reply #16 on: August 24, 2013, 05:07:13 PM »
We always look for a kicker early in the season that can do it. We also work on it as part of our preseason conditioning before we start practicing..... Once you find a holder and a snapper it's really not that hard...... blocking the rush probably the hardest part...

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Re: How huge is it in youth to have a KILLER kicker???
« Reply #17 on: August 24, 2013, 07:08:02 PM »
We lost our 2nd playoff game last year 14-12.  They made one, we didn't.  So ya, it's pretty imprtant.
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Re: How huge is it in youth to have a KILLER kicker???
« Reply #18 on: August 24, 2013, 09:34:28 PM »
Guys, the maths are pretty easy.
If you make one more 2pts conversion, the other team needs AN EXTRA TOUCHDOWN to NOT LOSE the game...
It's huge.
If you get 2 points for kicks (like we do), and you make 50% of them and the other team tries to run for 1 point, they need to make ALL of their 5 yards conversions. They miss one (or you are in a good day and make 3/4), and they need AN EXTRA TOUCHDOWN to NOT LOSE to you.

I repeat. They need an extra drive that they need to convert to a touchdown.

Huge.

Once I figured that one, we had the kids (all of them) who showed up early to practice try out those kicks at EVERY SINGLE PRACTICE.

It was so much fun that very soon, we had more and more kids showing up early.
By the start of the season, we had 3 kids who could kick it in 50%+ of the time.

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Re: How huge is it in youth to have a KILLER kicker???
« Reply #19 on: August 25, 2013, 12:11:07 PM »
Huge advantage to have kicker who can make it every time.

8-0 (needs 2 TD to win)
16-0 (needs 3 TD's to win)
24-0 (needs 4 TD's to win)

I have wrote this before. My first season I lost two games one 16-14  :( and another 14-13.  Unknowingly I had two kids (both 9 year olds) who could make the PAT kick.  It was a rookie mistake on my behalf and the kids suffered.
Last season we tied a game 12-12, both teams failed both 1-point run/pass conversions. The next week I started doing PAT's and kicked at a 60% success rate for the rest of the year.

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Re: How huge is it in youth to have a KILLER kicker???
« Reply #20 on: August 25, 2013, 12:23:20 PM »
Do any of you do anything special to ensure the kick doesn't get blocked?  How deep is your holder?
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Re: How huge is it in youth to have a KILLER kicker???
« Reply #21 on: August 25, 2013, 06:07:06 PM »
Do any of you do anything special to ensure the kick doesn't get blocked?  How deep is your holder?
Block.  ;)

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Re: How huge is it in youth to have a KILLER kicker???
« Reply #22 on: August 25, 2013, 07:05:10 PM »
Block.  ;)

Lol.  I just see a lot of kicks blocked in youth ball.  We block a ton.  Have a few blocked ourselves every year.  Figured maybe someone on here knows a trick or two.  Not gonna lie.  It's probably the weakest part of our team every year.
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Re: How huge is it in youth to have a KILLER kicker???
« Reply #23 on: August 25, 2013, 10:23:30 PM »
Lol.  I just see a lot of kicks blocked in youth ball.  We block a ton.  Have a few blocked ourselves every year.  Figured maybe someone on here knows a trick or two.  Not gonna lie.  It's probably the weakest part of our team every year.

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Re: How huge is it in youth to have a KILLER kicker???
« Reply #24 on: August 25, 2013, 10:54:46 PM »
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Re: How huge is it in youth to have a KILLER kicker???
« Reply #25 on: August 26, 2013, 02:53:07 PM »
I would bet most youth leagues kick for 2 as it is a much harder conversion unless you actually spend some time on it. Once you find a kid who can bang them through regularly it is crazy not to kick. In your league I wouldn't bother installing it. Why would you?

our league does it this way too - it's stupid.

we don't even install it and i've never seen a team do so. absolutely no incentive - not sure why the league set the rules this way.
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Re: How huge is it in youth to have a KILLER kicker???
« Reply #26 on: August 26, 2013, 03:07:14 PM »
For some reason in Reg season and play offs kick is worth two but at nationals last year it was only worth one. Silly rule but that is what happened. I would kick every time. I lost one game because my kicker was hurt and won our bowl game because he wasn't. I would especially kick on our 8U and 10 U levels where there is no rush.

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Re: How huge is it in youth to have a KILLER kicker???
« Reply #27 on: August 27, 2013, 05:25:30 PM »
We're doing special teams tonight... kickoff, kickoff return, extra points.....

I think it's easy for a DTDW team to go over extra points. there really is no difference...... Especially for me...

My QB is my holder, my FB is my kicker..... My wings just turn 45 degrees AWAY from the TE's..... and a little bit wider outside..... All that's left is the snap and the kick

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Re: How huge is it in youth to have a KILLER kicker???
« Reply #28 on: August 27, 2013, 11:13:04 PM »
We're doing special teams tonight... kickoff, kickoff return, extra points.....

I think it's easy for a DTDW team to go over extra points. there really is no difference...... Especially for me...

My QB is my holder, my FB is my kicker..... My wings just turn 45 degrees AWAY from the TE's..... and a little bit wider outside..... All that's left is the snap and the kick
You need a great holder. Go unbalanced.

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Re: How huge is it in youth to have a KILLER kicker???
« Reply #29 on: August 27, 2013, 11:33:28 PM »
Man, i hope we don't have to punt much this year.  We suck at punting.  Lol.  Just terrible.  Probably just go for it all year.
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