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Offline davecisar

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Re: formation question
« Reply #15 on: February 16, 2014, 07:21:16 AM »
Dave,

I am pretty sure C-Rob used your offense in the past, therefore the use of your nomenclature would be expected to make it familiar with his players.  Why add, when all you have to do is carry over.

Anyway ... Split, War (Wings all right), G, 16, Power are pretty standard tags in football.

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Split the way we call it is much different than how most guys use it- LE split to the right- most guys call that Over
as to War and Wall- never heard it used until we put it in our nomenclature- Menominee calls it "Special"
I don't think anyone uses Omaha to refer to the 2 back moving to the far outside- I do- Rob does

It's 100% mine- that's fine with me, was just surprised to see it
« Last Edit: February 16, 2014, 07:25:51 AM by davecisar »
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Re: formation question
« Reply #16 on: February 16, 2014, 07:27:27 AM »
Coach,

Not sure how to interpret your post.  Sarcasm or sincere?
Sincere, glad you have had so much success with it and been a loyal customer- we appreciate it absolutely
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Re: formation question
« Reply #17 on: February 16, 2014, 06:25:16 PM »

Split the way we call it is much different than how most guys use it- LE split to the right- most guys call that Over


I am confused by your "Split" call.  So you take the LE and move him over to the right?  Both Ends on the same side?
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Re: formation question
« Reply #18 on: February 16, 2014, 06:30:13 PM »
Are you guys creating these play diagrams in Power Point? If so is there a tutorial on here somewhere?

Joel,

I create all my plays/playbook on Power Point.  I do not think there is a tutorial, but what would you like to know?
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Re: formation question
« Reply #19 on: February 16, 2014, 08:13:19 PM »
Split Omaha War G 16 power

Glad to see everyone has standardized on my play calling nomenclature  ;D

Dave

We also run this formation. Its called Cattle Right.

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Re: formation question
« Reply #20 on: February 17, 2014, 09:20:52 AM »
I am confused by your "Split" call.  So you take the LE and move him over to the right?  Both Ends on the same side?

Yes a Tight End and a Split end to same side- obviously only the Split is eligible
If a team is in zone we have numbers
If they are in man- weve moved a whole bunch of players out of the box

Great formation on change of possession- no huddle rapid pace

This is a formation along with OMAHA that Dan Schalger used extensively when his Pop Warner Midget team won a National Title in 2012 and broke the Far West Jets 3 year unbeaten streak
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Re: formation question
« Reply #21 on: February 17, 2014, 09:37:32 AM »
Yes a Tight End and a Split end to same side- obviously only the Split is eligible
If a team is in zone we have numbers
If they are in man- weve moved a whole bunch of players out of the box

Great formation on change of possession- no huddle rapid pace

This is a formation along with OMAHA that Dan Schalger used extensively when his Pop Warner Midget team won a National Title in 2012 and broke the Far West Jets 3 year unbeaten streak
Because of our weight limit rules the end man on the LOS had to be under the ball carrier weight so we split our RE out and moved our LG over to the RE's original position.  This worked well for us as it also gave us a little more thump on power since we were replacing a smaller blocker with a larger one.  I hope that makes sense. 
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Re: formation question
« Reply #22 on: February 17, 2014, 09:48:24 AM »
Because of our weight limit rules the end man on the LOS had to be under the ball carrier weight so we split our RE out and moved our LG over to the RE's original position.  This worked well for us as it also gave us a little more thump on power since we were replacing a smaller blocker with a larger one.  I hope that makes sense.

It's still the same formation we use from the book
We rarely if ever have a striped player at LG- so for us- like many it didn't matter who we split
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Re: formation question
« Reply #23 on: February 17, 2014, 12:17:51 PM »
Joel,

I create all my plays/playbook on Power Point.  I do not think there is a tutorial, but what would you like to know?

John

Thanks. Was just curious how you guys drew those up. I'll play with powerpoint. I'd like to create play sheets like these for the fall. So that when we are watching walk throughs all of the coaches know the responsibilities of each player that they have to observe. We'll have gone over it prior to practice beginning as a staff, but I'm a visual guy and I always like to have references.

If I run into trouble I'll post something on the board.

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Re: formation question
« Reply #24 on: February 17, 2014, 06:09:05 PM »
Yes a Tight End and a Split end to same side- obviously only the Split is eligible
If a team is in zone we have numbers
If they are in man- weve moved a whole bunch of players out of the box

Great formation on change of possession- no huddle rapid pace

This is a formation along with OMAHA that Dan Schalger used extensively when his Pop Warner Midget team won a National Title in 2012 and broke the Far West Jets 3 year unbeaten streak
Dan is a closet spread guy.  :D He ran Omaha a bunch.

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Re: formation question
« Reply #25 on: February 17, 2014, 06:30:35 PM »
Well sometimes when your 1 is really fast you have to run Omaha  ;D
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