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Re: New DC Run and Shoot up
« Reply #90 on: May 28, 2014, 08:32:24 AM »
This what Jenkins did at the University of Houston. He put the outside guys above the numbers and moved the slots further out then what Mouse did. The problem he hit was against Miami. The slots weren't as wide and The U had lbs that could run with the slots. They forced uncovered throws and then rallied.

Im glad someone caught the jenkins reference. Hey hoss was a dead giveaway :)

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Re: New DC Run and Shoot up
« Reply #91 on: May 28, 2014, 08:34:53 AM »
If you could do it indoors they were too small.

Or you're Bill Gates.

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Livingroom isnt that big lol, had to do half line from center to one side

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Re: New DC Run and Shoot up
« Reply #92 on: May 28, 2014, 04:53:40 PM »
Only thing about passing offenses is how do you combat the weather? Had one of my worst games during a monsoon and we couldnt snap the ball to the qb to save our lives.

I understand this is also a running offense with the qb but the gun snaps in bad weather scare the heck outta me

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Re: New DC Run and Shoot up
« Reply #93 on: May 28, 2014, 05:09:05 PM »
Only thing about passing offenses is how do you combat the weather? Had one of my worst games during a monsoon and we couldnt snap the ball to the qb to save our lives.

I understand this is also a running offense with the qb but the gun snaps in bad weather scare the heck outta me

Won a championship during the worst Blizzard of the year and ran Beast Blast 40 times no problem.
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Re: New DC Run and Shoot up
« Reply #94 on: May 28, 2014, 05:15:52 PM »
What method do you teach for your snaps?

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Re: New DC Run and Shoot up
« Reply #95 on: May 28, 2014, 05:19:32 PM »
What method do you teach for your snaps?

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Re: New DC Run and Shoot up
« Reply #96 on: May 28, 2014, 07:38:16 PM »
Only thing about passing offenses is how do you combat the weather? Had one of my worst games during a monsoon and we couldnt snap the ball to the qb to save our lives.

I understand this is also a running offense with the qb but the gun snaps in bad weather scare the heck outta me

The gun snaps scare me less when I've chosen the right center, and by that I mean a kid who doesn't intimidate easily. IMHO, that's when snaps break down, when the other team stacks the A gaps or have a beast of a NT. I've seen good success with a consistent four yard snap, from a center who was also the starting MLB. That kid just didn't get intimidated.

Also, I constantly reiterate to my center that his biggest, most important job, is just to get the snap right. That's all. I never yell at him for any A gap blitzing stuff or a NT that beats him occasionally. The snap is more important than the block. But here's the thing about that, if you've put the right kid there, the one who's aggressive and doesn't get intimidated, then he's going to get into his man. Why? Because he wants to. He wants the contact.  ;)

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Re: New DC Run and Shoot up
« Reply #97 on: May 28, 2014, 07:40:13 PM »
I also agree with Mahonz, that the dead snap (end over ennd)is a great snap for kids.
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Re: New DC Run and Shoot up
« Reply #98 on: May 28, 2014, 07:47:24 PM »
I also agree with Mahonz, that the dead snap (end over ennd)is a great snap for kids.

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I also like it for Under Center too. Now if your Center is a Fire Hydrant the football wont get stuck between is thighs.

QB simply turns his hands 90 degrees off the norm. Nothing else changes.

Center learns one type of snap. Add in a short punt formation and your Center is good to go for the entire season.
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Re: New DC Run and Shoot up
« Reply #99 on: May 28, 2014, 08:48:16 PM »
Thanks for the feedback guys

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Re: New DC Run and Shoot up
« Reply #100 on: May 28, 2014, 11:00:36 PM »
Only thing about passing offenses is how do you combat the weather? Had one of my worst games during a monsoon and we couldnt snap the ball to the qb to save our lives.

I understand this is also a running offense with the qb but the gun snaps in bad weather scare the heck outta me

In rainfall of areas with 40+ inches this could be a problem.  It's why Wing T was popular on muddy fields.  Just try and follow the counter.
However, it can be fixed.  Just use a wet football in practice.  Using a wet ball will also improve your receiver's hands on dry days. 
« Last Edit: May 28, 2014, 11:02:12 PM by DumCoach »
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Re: New DC Run and Shoot up
« Reply #101 on: May 29, 2014, 12:05:27 PM »
Rain and even snow isn't a big deal.   High wind is the killer as it moves the ball off target or stops it dead.   

Lake Zurich high school where a lot of our title games are held seems to always be windy in November.    It is even windy on the field on calm days.

On windy days its hard to even stand.   It's a real equalizer. 

I like it better when the title games are held at Carmel H.S. as it is less windy at that location.   Still played in a monsoon there one year that made title game closer than it need to be.

The sucky thing about running a spread passing attack in our league is going up big early and fast and getting into garbage time.   

Garbage time requires no passing AND subbing 4 backfield players.   Now you have to trot out a run based offense you don't practice with back ups with no one covering your WR's.     Basically target practice on your backfield.

I might still throw bubbles this year and count them as runs and see what the officials say.




   

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Re: New DC Run and Shoot up
« Reply #102 on: May 29, 2014, 06:13:31 PM »
Just playing out the worst case scenario, if you couldnt pass would you be able to win a game running?
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Re: New DC Run and Shoot up
« Reply #103 on: May 29, 2014, 08:18:10 PM »
Just playing out the worst case scenario, if you couldnt pass would you be able to win a game running?
In Louisiana we have some mud bowls each sat

It's a "Pass first" offense.  I would guess the running game is 4 yards with the occasional breakaway.  The biggest runs are when QB takes off on a pass play. 

Weather is going to effect games.  Again, you can reduce the effects by practicing with a wet, muddy ball, which I recommend anyone do anyway.  Creating more screens is another solution. 

What other screen plays should we include?  I see an inside screen to the TE with OT blocking out as one.
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Re: New DC Run and Shoot up
« Reply #104 on: May 29, 2014, 08:25:54 PM »
I agree the TE screen under the OT is a good one