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Re: foot to foot splits
« Reply #15 on: February 24, 2015, 06:21:55 PM »
I can't see tight splits working with veer or zone honestly. So to say any system is a bit of a stretch.
Cox only runs his Base Scheme (ZONE blocking) with 1 foot to 18" splits.All his other fomations are basically DW blocking principles.
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Re: foot to foot splits
« Reply #16 on: February 24, 2015, 07:25:05 PM »
Me personally I wouldn't I don't run veer or option I know I've seen it done and done soundly as even myself brought up in coaching bye the wing t is considering tightening up and doing something's not bye the book as we are a hybrid already
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Re: foot to foot splits
« Reply #17 on: February 25, 2015, 03:43:22 AM »
Zone teams run splits that are generally 18" and Wing T teams uses 24" splits. Flexbone Option Teams use progressive splits C-G = 2 - 3', G-T = up to 5'. These wider splits are used to allow the QB to get a true read on his keys for the play called. Even in Coach Cox's offense when you are going with the Spread formations, Cowboy, Ace and the like, you MUST increase line splits.
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Re: foot to foot splits
« Reply #18 on: February 25, 2015, 08:07:54 AM »
Cox only runs his Base Scheme (ZONE blocking) with 1 foot to 18" splits.All his other fomations are basically DW blocking principles.
I was simply pointing out that not all schemes can be run with zero splits. Zone can't because you would step on the man next to you unless you do something other than a zone step as your first step. Veer and midline can't because the read on the dive would be too fast. Show me a veer team with zero splits.

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Re: foot to foot splits
« Reply #19 on: February 26, 2015, 07:48:36 AM »
I still haven't figured out how 0 splits prevent blitzing? If that is the case, does 0 splits prevent running?

It slows the interior blitz. Some.

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Re: foot to foot splits
« Reply #20 on: February 26, 2015, 12:42:30 PM »
It slows the interior blitz. Some.
Teaching kids how and who to actually block slows it a lot more.

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Re: foot to foot splits
« Reply #21 on: February 26, 2015, 02:56:57 PM »
Teaching kids how and who to actually block slows it a lot more.
Agreed, we only used 0 splits when we ran wedge or wedge pass, otherwise we were at ~ 18" .

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Re: foot to foot splits
« Reply #22 on: February 26, 2015, 08:26:10 PM »
Teaching kids how and who to actually block slows it a lot more.
No ,practice ,practice good coaching and communication takes care of those issues.Coaches have to beleive in themselves and what they do ,and the kids will buy in if the confidense is there.jmo
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Re: foot to foot splits
« Reply #23 on: February 27, 2015, 12:16:09 PM »
I agree on all the aforementioned points.  Foot to foot splits does a little something extra for our team.  We play on a compressed field.  It is about 2/3 the width of an official field.  It is also only 80 yds long.  Running foot to foot splits widens the field from TE to sideline.  It compresses the defense, so when we run sweeps we have more wiggle room.

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Re: foot to foot splits
« Reply #24 on: March 02, 2015, 09:32:47 PM »
I agree on all the aforementioned points.  Foot to foot splits does a little something extra for our team.  We play on a compressed field.  It is about 2/3 the width of an official field.  It is also only 80 yds long.  Running foot to foot splits widens the field from TE to sideline.  It compresses the defense, so when we run sweeps we have more wiggle room.
Your sweeps will depend on your blocking scheme,O -line is key.jmo
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Re: foot to foot splits
« Reply #25 on: March 03, 2015, 10:50:59 AM »
Your sweeps will depend on your blocking scheme,O -line is key.jmo

No doubt!  The success of every play type on offense will depend on blocking scheme.  I'm an "Every TD starts with the offensive line" type of coach.

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Re: foot to foot splits
« Reply #26 on: March 03, 2015, 10:59:49 AM »
No doubt!  The success of every play type on offense will depend on blocking scheme.  I'm an "Every TD starts with the offensive line" type of coach.

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Re: foot to foot splits
« Reply #27 on: March 03, 2015, 11:04:09 AM »
another side effect of splitz is the perimeter running game. The wider your splits the wider the defense the wider your ball carrier has to run to hit the edge. Therefor the opposite is true, the smaller the splits the less running your ball carrier needs before hitting the edge. So what does this tell us? big split run between tackle / small split run outside.

Incidentally the above is true with the Delaware wing T as its bread n butter play, the bucksweep, is run "under" the DE, so here they can afford the big 2ft splits or more. and to the weak side, non TE side, they have the quick pitch, why, because the DE is in closer- no TE, get to perimeter of defense very quick

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Re: foot to foot splits
« Reply #28 on: March 03, 2015, 07:17:40 PM »
Backs score runs but O-Linemen get RBIs.
Very true M,and a home run play is one kick,seal,log,stalk,or pancake block away.LOL    :)
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