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Offline mozzini

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Help stop this please
« on: September 29, 2015, 01:47:11 PM »
                                                                     
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3 of the 3 teams we faced run this. They keep running QB keeper sweeps, with those 3 backs lead blocking the way (seems as though we are out numbered at POA,) then when we shift out they'll hand off up the middle with 2 lead blockers.. Our league rules state that we have to keep our CBs 5 yards off the line and our LBs 3 yards off with no blitzing
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Re: Help stop this please
« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2015, 02:54:40 PM »
Um ide actually stack the same and will behind the 9 techs and put the corners in a 70 and play from there. The corners read would be so much easier as there's space now. Eyes on- blitz,  eyes off - cover
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Re: Help stop this please
« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2015, 11:15:49 AM »
The TE can get out and block Mike, leaving him in the BS backers way.  You have safety, corner and OLB left or three defenders to their three blockers.  You're right.  You're outnumbered.
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Re: Help stop this please
« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2015, 12:04:59 PM »
league rules retarded! dont coach there again go somewhere else.

can your D linemen stand?
how many LBs do you have to have?
I mean to ask if you could line up everybody on LOS, stone the TE, bear crawl the middle gaps and bring everybody...but 2 corners and 1 LB who is really a S but since your rules say LB must be 5 yds will call him the LB. They will have no passing game because your double teaming the 2 receivers (TEs).

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Re: Help stop this please
« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2015, 04:13:19 PM »
Put your safety at 6 yards.

If you're lucky, they always assign TE to your DE when the run is inside or outside.  Otherwise, he's taking out Mike who takes out the Will/Sam behind him.  Give us more info.
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Re: Help stop this please
« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2015, 06:07:50 PM »
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can your D linemen stand?
how many LBs do you have to have?
I mean to ask if you could line up everybody on LOS, stone the TE, bear crawl the middle gaps and bring everybody...but 2 corners and 1 LB who is really a S but since your rules say LB must be 5 yds will call him the LB. They will have no passing game because your double teaming the 2 receivers (TEs).

We can have as many LBSs  as we want,  we can't have more than 5 on the line unless we're inside the 10, then we can go 6 linemen.

Our LBs have to be 3 yards back with no movement,(or blitz) towards the line until ball is snapped. CBs have to be 5 yards off the ball. They have these rules in place to "allow a play to develop"

We do good when they run dive, but when they go 3 or 4 hole, they squeeze by somehow.

Then we're out gunned when they go outside because they run all 3 blockers and follow with the QB. So we have CB, OLB, and S coming up, there's nobody left to make the tackle. They run completely balanced, so I can't shift my mike one way or the other because they run both ways equally.

Really the only way we stop them ever, outside, is that our CB's we play could be LB's and our OLB's are fast and shifty.. I watch tape and they make blockers miss instead of blowing them up and getting them out of the way.

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Re: Help stop this please
« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2015, 06:11:23 PM »
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If you're lucky, they always assign TE to your DE when the run is inside or outside.  Otherwise, he's taking out Mike who takes out the Will/Sam behind him.  Give us more info

That's what's happening, TE comes and get's mike, backside backer has to get through all that mess to get to that side of the field. For him to make a tackle at or behind LOS is near impossible.
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Re: Help stop this please
« Reply #7 on: September 30, 2015, 09:30:15 PM »
That's what's happening, TE comes and get's mike, backside backer has to get through all that mess to get to that side of the field. For him to make a tackle at or behind LOS is near impossible.

Yes.  That would be impossible. 

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OK. For a sweep right, Red hits redGreen hits greenBlue hits blue

This means you're going to line that DE up in red and tilt him at the outside shoulder of the TE in red.  He hits him as hard as he can for three full steps and then pass covers the TE.  You have to ask your DE to volunteer to do this because stopping this sweep will require TEAMWORK.

The TE will no longer block Mike, plus it's hard for him to pass release, and he gets knocked into "C" gap to plug up off tackle.

But now you no longer have anyone playing contain.  C and S have to do that.  Both are looking at the running back in GREEN.   If that back in GREEN starts outside, S goes OUTSIDE.  He runs right across the heels of where the DE started, at about a 30 degree angle.  He will be in the backfield.  His man is the FB.  He has the FB because he can beat the FB's block.  By "beat the FB's block" he can get by the outside shoulder of the FB because his 30 degree angle will get him past (i.e. deeper than) the FB.  Nobody else should block S but FB.  Unless S weighs 60 pounds and FB 120, FB cannot make this block.  S is now deeper than FB.  If QB wants to run deeper than FB, S can bring him down.  The QB's only other choice is to run underneath FB's block.  If he does that, here come unblocked Mike and Will. 

C is also watching GREEN.    At 5 yards back, he'll reach the LOS at the same time the lead HB in GREEN does. And he's trucking to get a "hit" on GREEN.  But the lead HB does not know which side QB took around FB's block behind him.  He GUESSES by watching to see which side Corner tries to go by him.  Your big corner runs STRAIGHT AT HIM, giving him no clue where QB is behind him.  At the last moment, corner picks a side to get by him on (The side QB is on.). 

All blockers but one are accounted for (The HB in MAROON.).  Nobody cares what he does. He doesn't even know what he does.  But you can now get Mike, Will, and Fred all headed to the sideline unblocked.   NONE OF THE THREE CROSSES THE LOS.  We are looking for a three man GANG TACKLE on the QB at the LOS.  This QB was picked to RUN.  If one of your THREE crosses the LOS than you have just gone from a three man GANG TACKLE to TWO and MAROON now knows who he has (the dummy that crossed the LOS).  You want THREE hitting that QB; Mike and Fred virtually at the same time with Will as cleanup.

MAROON will be reduced to a spectator.  He should not block any of your THREE.  He has C and S coming free to think about and he has never had to think before.  And it would probably be a clip if he does try.

Mike STAYS and does not move until the QB moves.  That's who he watches.  It is a very high probability that the QB reverse pivots in the direction he runs.  This allows FB a chance to get ahead of him to block.  It also slows the QB down.  Mike does not move with the three backs.  He moves with the QB.  Just because three backs go left does not mean QB did not go right and he is a good runner.   Mike takes off the instant he thinks he knows which way QB is going.

Mike has control over BOTH DE's.  You tell both DE's in front of Mike that, if their TE ever makes a block on Mike they will run a lap in practice for each time they do it.  And Mike can chew on their butts on the field if it ever happens.  But, if the TE never touches Mike than Mike has to thank both DE's in front of the entire team afterwards and he has to run a lap.

Very few DE's will pass up on the chance to not only be thanked in front of the entire but make a team star run a lap.  For that one lap, THEY ARE THE STARS. 

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Re: Help stop this please
« Reply #8 on: October 01, 2015, 02:10:17 PM »
Thanks so much coach..  I will implement this immediately, great stuff here!!
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