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Scrimmage coverages?
« on: February 22, 2016, 08:06:59 PM »
Coach, I'm reading up on the passing game lately, but I also consider how I'd defend it with our own defense. 

Got me thinking, how does your own team run their coverage versus your offense? Man? Zone? Or a mix? Hard or soft?   

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Re: Scrimmage coverages?
« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2016, 09:00:50 PM »
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At the HS level we vary the coverage, game week it will be what ever coverage's our opponents will play.

At the youth level we played our coverage's. Normally we were a C3, team so we mostly played C3. One year our DC complained because we always had a way to beat C3, he came up with the line "Thank God we don't play us". That was our motto that year.

When I coached youth we rarely worried about what coverage to play in scrimmage, because we limited our scrimmage time. Now in 7on7 we varied the coverage & threw everything at the offense.

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Re: Scrimmage coverages?
« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2016, 10:00:20 PM »
Keep the O uncomfortable then by mixing it up.  I guess the coverage, etc depends entirely on down and distance?

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Re: Scrimmage coverages?
« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2016, 11:17:50 PM »
Keep the O uncomfortable then by mixing it up.  I guess the coverage, etc depends entirely on down and distance?
TF

First consideration is the age of the team. An 11 y/o would only see C2, C3, or perhaps C1. At 14 0,1,2,2man, 3 & 3 Buzz, perhaps 4. At the HS level we all types of coverage's disguised. My first year back at the school I coach at now it was a slow process getting the QB's to understand the coverage's & where to throw. I knew we got there when in camp during a live scrimmage against another team we hit a vert for a TD & I asked the QB why he made the throw. His answer was he saw the SS cheating down 1 yd so he knew they changed the coverage & where to go.

The point is coach what you will see, & what you need to beat.

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Re: Scrimmage coverages?
« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2016, 01:52:36 PM »
Thanks for the reply coach.  Clarifies the philosophy I need to take on O and D.

Another question. We have limited # of coaches and a lack of overall football knowledge-just a couple of us.

Does it make sense to package routes to attack certain coverages?
I.e. California - routes best suited for a cover two, Texas - cover 1, etc.
Then just use a check with me call to adjust routes?

Or is it easier for players to adjust routes based on coverage?

We don't see a lot of coverages disguised by teams.

Thanks

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Re: Scrimmage coverages?
« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2016, 04:34:13 PM »
Thanks for the reply coach.  Clarifies the philosophy I need to take on O and D.

Another question. We have limited # of coaches and a lack of overall football knowledge-just a couple of us.

Does it make sense to package routes to attack certain coverages?
I.e. California - routes best suited for a cover two, Texas - cover 1, etc.
Then just use a check with me call to adjust routes?

Or is it easier for players to adjust routes based on coverage?

We don't see a lot of coverages disguised by teams.

Thanks
TF

The way our concepts are packaged we know where to throw no matter the coverage.

4 Verts vs 2 throw outside vs 3 throw inside
Smash vs 2 throw the corner vs 3 throw the hitch

So on & so on. We don't allow the coverage to dictate our plays.

Joe
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Re: Scrimmage coverages?
« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2016, 10:04:27 PM »
TF

The way our concepts are packaged we know where to throw no matter the coverage.

4 Verts vs 2 throw outside vs 3 throw inside
Smash vs 2 throw the corner vs 3 throw the hitch

So on & so on. We don't allow the coverage to dictate our plays.

Joe


 That's so much easier than what I was thinking.   Gives me a much clearer idea of what I need to look at. Thanks for the help.

Mike