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Re: Very Sad
« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2017, 07:54:27 AM »
The kid was a steroid abuser as well

Note that former NFL players suicide rate is less than half of the general population:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2016/05/11/cdc-study-nfl-suicide/84224104/
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Re: Very Sad
« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2017, 09:15:35 AM »
The kid was a steroid abuser as well

Note that former NFL players suicide rate is less than half of the general population:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2016/05/11/cdc-study-nfl-suicide/84224104/
Amazes me how many people, at least on the internet, that are supposed coaches, actually want this narrative to be true. The narrative being that the game is to dangerous and we need to make the game illegal.
Now to be fair,  I think they tried to do this in the 80's with drugs and steroids. I am not quite old enough to remember fully, but I think they tried to do this with lyle alzado's death.
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Re: Very Sad
« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2017, 09:33:48 AM »
Amazes me how many people, at least on the internet, that are supposed coaches, actually want this narrative to be true. The narrative being that the game is to dangerous and we need to make the game illegal.
Now to be fair,  I think they tried to do this in the 80's with drugs and steroids. I am not quite old enough to remember fully, but I think they tried to do this with lyle alzado's death.

Alzados death opened a lot of eyes but the abuse continues....now on the black market.
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Re: Very Sad
« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2017, 09:41:19 AM »
Alzados death opened a lot of eyes but the abuse continues....now on the black market.
I could point to several much more recent  versions of Alzado but I am not in the mood nor want to play defense.
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Re: Very Sad
« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2017, 12:47:57 PM »
The kid was a steroid abuser as well

Didn't know that but it doesn't surprise me at all.  It's frustrating to see how reckless everyone involved in this situation was.


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Re: Very Sad
« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2017, 05:09:08 PM »
  With any "sport" there's a risk assumed, people die racing cars, in boxing and mma fights, in football games and basketball games.

With regards to concussions, I fail to understand how there are sports like boxing and man where the object is to KNOCK out your opponent (which we all know unconsciousness is the sign of a serious concussion) but football has a big target on its back.

With regards to professional sports, I believe steroid use and PED's are much more common than anyone is actually willing to admit.  It may seem insensitive, yet I'm really unsure as to why anyone actually cares.

You can't sit on your couch and take steroids and become a beast, also steroids do not make a non athlete an athlete.  For someone whose livelihood comes by way of their physical performance, why do you care if they make the decision to put their body on the line and risk CTE, cancer, liver failure or whatever...it's their life.

I sit in an office all day in a chair, which I've read is just as bad as smoking a pack of cigarettes a day...I don't hear anyone crusading against office workers and health risks.

PEDS and anabolics are a fact of life in professional sports as well as Hollywood...a guy like Christian Bale who weighed 120 for the Machinist and then he's jacked up for Batman...if you think he did this by dieting and hard work you're a dummy.
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Re: Very Sad
« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2017, 03:05:50 PM »
Is the use of steroids relevant? It might be:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26784694

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Re: Very Sad
« Reply #8 on: January 15, 2017, 03:41:03 PM »
As a parent this saddens me deeply.  No Parent should have to bury their child.   

The sad fact is that the uninitiated and under informed will latch onto this and run with it! 

See I told You!  See that movie was right! 

There is no question that our game is under attack!  Yet I cannot help but think there is indeed more to the story!  How on earth does a kid develop CTE so early in life?  There has to be more contributing factors than football.  Are some of us predisposed to Dementia or some other Higher Brain Function malady? I will not know in my lifetime as there is far too much research yet to be done.   

What I do know is that our Participation Numbers are dwindling.   I suspect that this publicity has something to do with it.   :(
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Re: Very Sad
« Reply #9 on: January 15, 2017, 06:08:17 PM »
Sounds like the kid was never coached not to put his head down...also sounds like he had some therbissues like his whole identity was wrapped up in the game of football and once that was over he started to deteriorate and indulge in drugs.  Per his diary right off of the rio when he got a prescription for aderall he took it home crushed it and snorted it...who does that?!?
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Re: Very Sad
« Reply #10 on: January 15, 2017, 11:22:20 PM »
Sounds like the kid was never coached not to put his head down...also sounds like he had some therbissues like his whole identity was wrapped up in the game of football and once that was over he started to deteriorate and indulge in drugs.  Per his diary right off of the rio when he got a prescription for aderall he took it home crushed it and snorted it...who does that?!?
Notice this story doesn't get national attention. Willing to gamble that is because of those other facts that have become public.
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