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Not Sure !!!!!!!
« on: June 26, 2017, 12:13:14 PM »
Last Thursday night i get a call from our treasurer telling me that our E-board unanimously voted me in to the VP spot and are waiting for me to to except .... Now if anyone knows me knows that i hate E-board's and feel they are a complete cluster f#$% and waste of time and energy. Now in the little time i been there I've created a culture and identity totally changing the top of the program. Were for the 1st time ever in Danbury were not even in July and i have have few spot's left. They obviously taken notice to how i do thing's and feel the need for me to help. Which i offered since Dec and was never taken advantage of. From developing Coaches to even outlining my formula and giving them a whole off season baseline to work from. Nobody used it off course i made sure my team AND STAFF was intact and made myself present were ever kid's in  Danbury were at. Like always my formula did not fail ME ! NOW WERE 5 WEEK'S OUT and our 3 bottom teams have terrible leadership and limited #'s even thou i know we will  have teams. Am i wrong for telling them no way and we can address this in November letting them learn the hard way on why you should just do what i say and put the work in necessary to avoid these issues ? Or should I try and fix this in 5 weeks which i know will be a very tough deal.
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Re: Not Sure !!!!!!!
« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2017, 01:00:44 PM »
I would fix it.  I was in a similar situation as I was heading towards the tail end of my son's playing days.  I took on the VP job and figured that I would show the next group what to do.  Well, I still couldn't leave even after my son moved on.  Now I will end up working with the little guys and I have to give the older coaches guidance as well.

You will do it because it is what is best for the kids.  :D

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Re: Not Sure !!!!!!!
« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2017, 01:22:24 PM »
You know you want to save the day. You should accept the position but only if they will let you run things how you run things.

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« Reply #3 on: June 27, 2017, 06:28:06 AM »
Can you spare the time? Will it hurt your team? Will it make you want to pull your hair out every single day?

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« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2017, 08:55:35 AM »
Can you spare the time? Will it hurt your team? Will it make you want to pull your hair out every single day?
That's the million doller ? and i feel like i gave them a chance to fix things in December until shit hit the fan they wanted nothing to do with me. Im not saying i was the nicest guy in the world but i was honest about how shitty they run this thing and made a clear decision to only worry about my staff and team. If i dont help this program has a 2 to 3 years tops which i cant even guarantee ill be around for i get Coaching oppurtunities every day. I just excepted becoming the Head Coach and GM for a Women's professional football team Western CT Hawks which runs in our off season and there's some other things i haven't figured out yet ... This is weighing on me because i do feel every kid should have an enjoyable expierience but at what point do you hold the people in charge accountable .....
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Re: Not Sure !!!!!!!
« Reply #5 on: June 27, 2017, 09:59:23 AM »
That's the million doller ? and i feel like i gave them a chance to fix things in December until shit hit the fan they wanted nothing to do with me. Im not saying i was the nicest guy in the world but i was honest about how shitty they run this thing and made a clear decision to only worry about my staff and team. If i dont help this program has a 2 to 3 years tops which i cant even guarantee ill be around for i get Coaching oppurtunities every day. I just excepted becoming the Head Coach and GM for a Women's professional football team Western CT Hawks which runs in our off season and there's some other things i haven't figured out yet ... This is weighing on me because i do feel every kid should have an enjoyable expierience but at what point do you hold the people in charge accountable .....
You can't save them if you aren't going to be there for a long period of time. Once you leave it will fall apart most likely so you may just prolong the inevitable. A football program falls apart for the same reasons a business fails. Because it should. The competition is better and the people running it are doing a crappy job. So if you go in for a year is it going to cause permanent change? If the answer is not yes then I wouldn't bother. I doubt the answer will be yes. My old org went though leadership changes and the entire atmosphere changed. They chased the coaches and players away. Almost nothing short of the other leagues falling apart will return my old org to what it was as far as numbers go. The parents were just fed up so they left. I honestly see my old org closing it's door within 2-3 seasons. Going from a a national power with hundreds of kids to an org barely fielding teams in the matter of 2 years is awful. Changing the atmosphere in a positive way takes years. Ruining all that work can take a single season.

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« Reply #6 on: June 27, 2017, 11:08:01 AM »
Im in absolute agreement couldn't of said it better myself... I get frustrated because running a good program isn't as hard as people make it  it's just takes dedication, commitment, execution and an understanding how people work. That is also the same at HS level around here people struggle with stuff that i can change and execute with my eye's closed.....
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« Reply #7 on: June 27, 2017, 11:59:48 AM »
Im in absolute agreement couldn't of said it better myself... I get frustrated because running a good program isn't as hard as people make it  it's just takes dedication, commitment, execution and an understanding how people work. That is also the same at HS level around here people struggle with stuff that i can change and execute with my eye's closed.....
If the board simply remembers that the players and parents are their customers then things improve. Not that a board should bend to every whim but some things need to be done to make the experience enjoyable for the players AND the parents. The parents ultimately make the decisions as to where the kids play and they vote with their feet quickly.

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Re: Not Sure !!!!!!!
« Reply #8 on: June 28, 2017, 11:01:28 AM »
I say take the job if you can commit at least 2 seasons to the job and groom your replacement.

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« Reply #9 on: June 28, 2017, 11:15:52 AM »
I say take the job if you can commit at least 2 seasons to the job and groom your replacement.
Two years doesn't seem like enough time. I think it would take two years just to groom the replacement. When a program is in trouble it takes a good 4 or 5 years to correct itself I think. They have to prove that what they are doing is a good thing and sustainable. Word has to spread. A revolving door at the head of the monster doesn't show that.

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« Reply #10 on: June 28, 2017, 11:22:59 AM »
Two years doesn't seem like enough time. I think it would take two years just to groom the replacement. When a program is in trouble it takes a good 4 or 5 years to correct itself I think. They have to prove that what they are doing is a good thing and sustainable. Word has to spread. A revolving door at the head of the monster doesn't show that.
I said 2 years because that is the normal term for a Vice/President, unless they are re-elected.

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« Reply #11 on: June 28, 2017, 11:31:18 AM »
I said 2 years because that is the normal term for a Vice/President, unless they are re-elected.
When we were doing well our board had been in place for years. The change up within the board coincided with the demise of the association. It was not all their fault by any means but some of the personalities and ideas really hurt the org.

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« Reply #12 on: June 28, 2017, 11:52:45 AM »
When we were doing well our board had been in place for years. The change up within the board coincided with the demise of the association. It was not all their fault by any means but some of the personalities and ideas really hurt the org.
I will say the best boards are the ones who stay in place for many years. This is assuming the board doesn't interfere with coaching and let's the coaches coach. That is one reason I have held back on joining our board. I know once I do, the board side will have to come first and I won't be able to coach as much as I would like. Next year will be big for us as out top 3 board members kids graduate high school this year and will be moving on to college. I don't see them staying around to run a youth org when they want to go see their kids play in college on Saturdays. One family is truly the heart and soul of our org and if they leave I am afraid what might happen to the org.  ???