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Offline CoachMattT

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looking for tips
« on: July 06, 2017, 03:54:06 PM »
So I feel after all the reading that I have done is that my situation seems a bit different from the norm.  So I am hoping some tips of your situations might help mine, there will be things that I am not seeing that I need to be.  I hate the idea of going into this year unprepared, I know there will always be things that I am going to have to learn on the fly but I want to minimize stupid mistakes when I can.

So my town breaks our teams down into as many teams as they can, usually 11-15 players to a team.  Last year we split to 3 teams of 13.  Three head coaches then draft the teams and then discuss to make sure everyone agrees the three teams are relatively equal for talent.  Then the three coaches draw what team will be theirs out of a hat. If a coaches kid is on another team they are traded for perceived equal talent. (Ill probably be the only coach to say my kid isn't elite talent. lol side note: he still loves the game and I want to keep it that way.) Of the three coaches last year there is an overall head coach with each age group, coaches obviously get drafter volunteer as needed.

This year my son and subsequently myself will be moving up to the 12 and under league.  Last year they managed two teams almost had enough for three.  Given the age group I would imagine we will still have three.  After seeing how the 12u league was coached last year I am hoping to put my name in the ring to be the grades overall head coach.  Minimum I will be one of the team coaches.

So where I am needing some advice first and foremost is the coach interview.  Not sure what kind of an interview they even do, I am currently planning on putting together a binder of what I(and my "team mom" wife) have planned.  I want to be able to give some ideas into scheme, drills, and practice plans to show that I am not going into this lightly.  I am planning on a DCWT and I will be getting the install video soon.  So my next question is what install video should I be looking at for a 12u team?

Lastly I have a bunch of stuff bookmarked to read, haven't gotten through it all yet.  Does anyone have a good idea of how to lay out those first few practices?  I am sure the install video will help with that, but I am just hunting for all the info I can get.

I have a lot of info to digest and don't plan on nibbling! lol

Thank you for all your help I will add as I go i'm sure.

Thanks Matt

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Re: looking for tips
« Reply #1 on: July 06, 2017, 04:29:01 PM »
Team rules first ( players, coaches, and parents ).
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Re: looking for tips
« Reply #2 on: July 06, 2017, 04:40:46 PM »
I doubt they will ask much about scheme. But going in with a proven offense that somebody else came up with and many others run is a good idea. Same with the defense. Be sure to emphasize that you will teach safe blocking and tackling and the drills you will use to do so. Then as angalton posted a list of team rules is essential. Make it known that you require a mandatory preseason parent meeting where you will discuss all team rules. Then have a plan on how to enforce those rules with the consequences.

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Re: looking for tips
« Reply #3 on: July 06, 2017, 07:55:12 PM »
One of the biggest headaches for admins are phone calls/emails from disgruntled parents. I'd advise you to be prepared to answer questions about your stance on playing time. "Every kid gets equal playing time" is a poor answer and so is "Best 11 start both ways and hardly leave the field". Decide how YOU handle playing time, develop a policy, share that policy with the interviewer and make sure he knows that the parents will know that policy as well.
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Re: looking for tips
« Reply #4 on: July 06, 2017, 09:24:08 PM »
Best advice I received for a coach interview is to have a sports resume.  I think it was from Cisar and it proved to be great advice. 

BTW, I got the job  :)

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Re: looking for tips
« Reply #5 on: July 07, 2017, 06:52:45 AM »
One of the biggest headaches for admins are phone calls/emails from disgruntled parents. I'd advise you to be prepared to answer questions about your stance on playing time. "Every kid gets equal playing time" is a poor answer and so is "Best 11 start both ways and hardly leave the field". Decide how YOU handle playing time, develop a policy, share that policy with the interviewer and make sure he knows that the parents will know that policy as well.

I did address that a bit last year with some parents.  I have a little bit of a tweak to how I did things last year that should improve the situation a bit.  Typically if we can break down into three teams we only end up with 11-13 on each team so its not hard to get all the players tons of time.  I want to spend more time this year teaching them "how" to play the positions they were thrown into last year.

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Re: looking for tips
« Reply #6 on: July 07, 2017, 08:00:22 AM »
I did address that a bit last year with some parents.  I have a little bit of a tweak to how I did things last year that should improve the situation a bit.  Typically if we can break down into three teams we only end up with 11-13 on each team so its not hard to get all the players tons of time.  I want to spend more time this year teaching them "how" to play the positions they were thrown into last year.

13 players at 12u is a very small number.  18-25 is more of the range that I would want.
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Re: looking for tips
« Reply #7 on: July 07, 2017, 08:37:34 AM »
Can't help you there.  I never interviewed for a coaching position.  I was an AC with the same HC for 11 years after sitting with him at the coach/parent social my son's first year playing (so my "interview" was a couple of drinks and a "want to help out?", "sure"), then when he stepped down before last season, I got an email with an application and a note letting me know it's mine if I want it.

Then again, the decision maker (Org Pres) coaches the team that practices next to us, so he's had an up-close view of my madness for the duration.  Which makes giving me the team an even dumber move... ???  :)
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Re: looking for tips
« Reply #8 on: July 07, 2017, 08:20:39 PM »
any advice on install videos and what I should try to accomplish with my first few practices?

I plan on spending a lot of time on blocking technique and how to know who they should be blocking, but how much focus should be on that in those first practices?  Seeing the way the coaching has been done in the past I know all the kids know essentially nothing of how or who to block so I am for the most part starting from scratch.

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Re: looking for tips
« Reply #9 on: July 07, 2017, 09:13:00 PM »
 
Seeing the way the coaching has been done in the past I know all the kids know essentially nothing of how or who to block so I am for the most part starting from scratch.

Awesome 8)

Here is what you do. Blocking and tackling mean nothing right now. Yes....NOTHING.

The reason being you are dealing with rookies and or under-coached kids so they can be the best tacklers in drills and suck eggs on game day because they are NEVER in the right place at the right time.

Same thing for for blocking. They might lean how to block in drills like a bunch of mad dogs but on game day they have no clue WHO to block.

So....do the opposite of what every single opponent you will face this season will do in pre season...over coach the Offense and ignore their Defense.

Therefore you spend 70% of all preseason practice time on your Defense. Tackling drills, lots of Group time for instruction and as much Team as you can muster even if you go half lines with a few dads holding hand shields.

Then you spend 30% of your time drilling and running your Offense plays on air since your team roster is small. Half line sucks for Offense so use trash cans and dads holding bags and do a ton of birddog drills... AS A UNIT. Keep the Offense STOOOPID SIMPLE and get really good at a handful of runs and a pass or 2.

What then happens is rather amazing. While all of your opponents have spent all of their preseason time teaching Offense....you have now created your Goliath Defense. The first two games of the season you frustrate the opposing OC big time.

Then you roll out your STOOPID SIMPLE Offense vs their highly under-trained Defense and scratch out some nice scoring drives for the "w".

Now you are ahead of the curve and can bring the practice time more balanced 50/50 and begin to go more heavy on the fundamentals while you expand your Offense at a reasonable pace. By the end of the season you are still ahead of the curve.

You WILL WIN GAMES early in the season by getting your Defenders in the right place at the right time even if they are getting trucked because they are average tacklers. Do a ridiculous amount of Team for your Defense. A great Defense learns how to play fast....that will only happen if they experience a bunch of live mayhem.

You WILL WIN GAMES early in the season by getting your blockers on the right Defenders while running a handful of plays. Birddog the heck out of them over and over vs many scenarios for every play. Then they will know WHO to block even if they suck at blocking. Just getting in the way is a great block initially.

Now your boys are confident and ready to expand and really tighten up.

With inexperienced or under-coached players this works...VERY well. Good luck.
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Re: looking for tips
« Reply #10 on: July 08, 2017, 09:23:24 AM »
Absolutely great advice.

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Re: looking for tips
« Reply #11 on: July 08, 2017, 01:15:00 PM »
With Mahonz's advice above I partly agree & partly disagree.  He's right that knowing who to block is more important than knowing how, & that the system of offense you run can make knowing who to block easier or harder.  He's right that pursuit & not getting yourself out of place on defense is more important than tackling.  However, I have not seen as much as he has of teams spending that much time on offense early, and I've seen more teams blowing games early because their offenses weren't ready than I've seen that of less-than-prepared defenses.  But you can defer getting much of your offense in until later.

Practice in pursuit against wide runs and against end runs will win you a lot of games by minimizing breakaway gains by opponents, but only if your offense is good enough to take advantage.  Otherwise the other team will be running off a lot of first downs before eventually losing the ball on a fumble, usually leaving you in field position your offense won't score from unless the other team hasn't learned pursuit wide.

Also, find out early your league rules on the kicking game, and be sure to prepare in time for at least minimal competence in those situations.

Also, I don't have as low an opinion of half-line practice as Mahonz does.  Given how short the team rosters are that your organiz'n composes, most of your players will be playing both ways, and unless you're very unlucky, it shouldn't be hard to make practice teams of "right half" & "left half" and having them practice offense & defense alternately vs. each other,, and if it's a stooopid offense, leaving out some backs from them isn't going to hurt the realism because you wouldn'tve been faking to them anyway.

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Re: looking for tips
« Reply #12 on: July 08, 2017, 01:41:11 PM »


Also, I don't have as low an opinion of half-line practice as Mahonz does. 


Defense I like half lines....Offense....hard to work on pulling and counters. Otherwise no issues.
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Re: looking for tips
« Reply #13 on: July 08, 2017, 02:34:10 PM »
Defense I like half lines....Offense....hard to work on pulling and counters. Otherwise no issues.
But a stooopid simple offense wouldn't have pulling.  It might have counters, maybe not even those.

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Re: looking for tips
« Reply #14 on: July 08, 2017, 03:14:11 PM »
I believe that being in the right place is actually more important than perfect tackling technique. You can't tackle anybody if your defense isn't aligned correctly. Same goes for blocking. If you block the wrong guy, I don't care how perfect the technique is, the guy that was supposed to be blocked makes a 4 yard tackle for loss or worse. If you don't line up right or block the right guy fundies don't mean a darn thing. This is why we moved to super high speed practicing. We had to get the scheme in to make things work. The faster we move in practice the more we get in. And you need to stress fundies during team time as well. But fix them quickly. Develop key words that the kids understand what you mean when you say them so you don't get tied down in verbage. Correctly quickly and precisely. A short sentence at most, a single word or phrase at best. I see many teams stop stressing fundies during installs/team. Bad idea.