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Re: Punish the player for the sins of the parent?
« Reply #30 on: November 14, 2017, 02:53:25 PM »
Turns out he caught a guy passing the hat who wasn't even part of the organization just a scammer. They had to chase his ass down to get the money.


Now I'm going to be suspicious of those kids on the sidelines rattling their "Touchdown Buckets". :D
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Re: Punish the player for the sins of the parent?
« Reply #31 on: November 14, 2017, 08:44:37 PM »
A player broke out in the open field for a sure touchdown, but decided to Deion Sanders his way in to the endzone from about the 11 and got caught from behind.  Coach was mad, and was addressing what happened during the post game talk.  Dad goes ballistic, cause he did not think his son was hot dogging it (he was definitely) in front of the kids.  After they break their post game, he goes after the coach, threatening, trying to get him to fight, stuff like that.  This was done in front of one of our other teams who was weighing in.  Coach gets him away from kids.  And the dad is trying to get him to fight out in the parking lot now.

What's that got to do with the kid?  If his son was hot-dogging it, it sounds like the coaching staff never went over what was acceptable behavior on a touchdown run.  Our kids don't high-step, swan dive or anything else other than hand the ball to the official after a score. 

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Re: Punish the player for the sins of the parent?
« Reply #32 on: November 15, 2017, 09:39:44 AM »
What's that got to do with the kid?  If his son was hot-dogging it, it sounds like the coaching staff never went over what was acceptable behavior on a touchdown run.  Our kids don't high-step, swan dive or anything else other than hand the ball to the official after a score. 

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That's not the right question to be asking.  The correct question is would the dad have caused a scene still if he knew it would cause his son to miss the next game, or half a game or whatever. 

It didn't have anything to do with the kid.  It had nothing to do with any of the kids from 2 teams that had to witness part of it.  Now if I was the coach and I could say look, we have a 24 hour rule, you are breaking it, if you keep this up, your child will sit, per team rules, I think there is a good chance the whole fiasco ends there, and it can be discussed the next day with cooler heads.  Now maybe not but I think it would be a pretty good chance it would work. 

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Re: Punish the player for the sins of the parent?
« Reply #33 on: November 15, 2017, 10:01:49 AM »
I personally don't think the contracts are worth the paper they're written on. The only value is if you want to show it to them while they're being kicked out of the event.


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Re: Punish the player for the sins of the parent?
« Reply #34 on: November 15, 2017, 10:19:59 AM »
I personally don't think the contracts are worth the paper they're written on. The only value is if you want to show it to them while they're being kicked out of the event.

They really do matter- when you combine them with a parent meeting AND enforce it

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Re: Punish the player for the sins of the parent?
« Reply #35 on: November 15, 2017, 11:31:41 AM »
They really do matter- when you combine them with a parent meeting AND enforce it

Agree.  Contracts show that you mean business (as long as you enforce them).  It doesn't mean that people won't go by them; it does mean that you have recourse if they don't.

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Re: Punish the player for the sins of the parent?
« Reply #36 on: November 15, 2017, 11:54:37 AM »
They really do matter- when you combine them with a parent meeting AND enforce it

YOu can always refer back to the contract they agreed to sign as a condition of participating
No wiggle room- it is a set standard that all can see

They matter because the parents know ahead of time exactly what is meant by unacceptable conduct.  The only time we have run into issues (and they were easily addressed) was when we had grandparents getting out of control.  I usually give the parent a stink-eye and they get the grandparents under control. 

I have a mandatory parents meeting at the first practice and I explain things about the season.  That includes their behavior on the practice field and during games.  I usually take the opportunity to tell them that all of the paperwork that we require before their kid can get on the field is because there are adults out there who do things to ruin the game for the kids.  I tell them to not be one of those adults.  Usually helps drive the point home. 

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Re: Punish the player for the sins of the parent?
« Reply #37 on: November 15, 2017, 12:07:31 PM »
They really do matter- when you combine them with a parent meeting AND enforce it

YOu can always refer back to the contract they agreed to sign as a condition of participating
No wiggle room- it is a set standard that all can see


Maybe it's just where I've always coached for a school, instead of an open league.

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Re: Punish the player for the sins of the parent?
« Reply #38 on: November 15, 2017, 12:09:16 PM »

Maybe it's just where I've always coached for a school, instead of an open league.

I would think a school district would have more power over an independent league.
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Re: Punish the player for the sins of the parent?
« Reply #39 on: November 15, 2017, 03:47:33 PM »
I personally don't think the contracts are worth the paper they're written on. The only value is if you want to show it to them while they're being kicked out of the event.

Kent would remind a parent of their contract when they stepped out of line and the behavior stopped immediately.
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