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Re: What is your idea of conditioning?
« Reply #30 on: January 04, 2018, 04:37:53 AM »
Exactly, conditioning should mimic the sport you are playing. High intensity football drills with a high speed practice is all we ever needed. We ran hurry up 100% of the time and the other teams were always gassed long before we were even though I know many of them ran sprints every day.
Yes, this ^^^ exactly.

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Re: What is your idea of conditioning?
« Reply #31 on: January 04, 2018, 06:26:42 AM »
When I coach football, I don't use either of those.

There's always somebody who has a whistle.  People seem to like buying those.
When I remember to bring my whistle, I never start a drill with a whistle, only to end a drill. That's because I want them to start on the sound and keep going until they hear the whistle.

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Re: What is your idea of conditioning?
« Reply #32 on: January 04, 2018, 10:02:24 AM »
This past season we had 14 coaches on staff (across all 3 HS levels - Varsity, JV, and Frosh).  I think the only guy who had a whistle was my JV O-line coach.  And even with him, I think he only had his because one day the Varsity HC asked if anyone had a whistle and he was the only one who volunteered that he had one, so all season long, whenever we needed a whistle, the coaches all looked to him.  I had a whistle in my bag, but I never pulled it out all season.
That's why I stopped looking for my whistles -- must be somewhere in the garage, where I put stuff I packed from moving that I wouldn't need immediately -- after about a week after practice started.  6 coaches for 15 kids.  There was one instant during the entire season when I wished I had a whistle to stop something, I don't remember what, but it got taken care of.

At the after-season party, they presented us each a stainless whistle engraved w our own name & "Newton Braves".  Aww.

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Re: What is your idea of conditioning?
« Reply #33 on: January 04, 2018, 10:05:09 AM »
I might be at an advantage too. It's been so long since I played HS ball, I can't even tell you what are practices were like. So most of what I learned was definitely from being on here.

Vince, no doubt I've learned a lot here.  I've also learned from attending or teaching clinics, visiting practices, studying film, etc.  But most of all, I've learned from doing.  Coaching the game and finding what worked for us and what didn't work and trying to apply that edge immediately, not somewhere down the line.  So while this site is helpful, I can't say that "most" of what I learned came from here.  Most of what I've learned has come from actually coaching, not reading a website.  Coaches have to go out into the field, find their coaching voice (i.e., through trial and error, learn what works and doesn't work for them), put their hands on bodies and just coach.  That's still the best way to learn.  Everything else just augments the on-the-field process.

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Re: What is your idea of conditioning?
« Reply #34 on: January 04, 2018, 10:10:53 AM »
When I remember to bring my whistle, I never start a drill with a whistle, only to end a drill. That's because I want them to start on the sound and keep going until they hear the whistle.
Yes, that was a point I thought of myself, and then one day forgot in my 1st yr. w the Warriors, upon which The Chief (founder of the club in 1952) came over & told me the same thing.  Unfortunately my HC in the Braves in 2017 didn't go by it.  Our team did get some late-hit penalties during the season; it's unlikely they'd've avoided them just by the constant reinforcement of "whistle means stop", but you never know, and it couldn't've hurt.  I think Gabe Infante at the USA Football clinic made the same point.

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Re: What is your idea of conditioning?
« Reply #35 on: January 04, 2018, 10:16:18 AM »
I never start a drill with a whistle, only to end a drill.

^ This.

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Re: What is your idea of conditioning?
« Reply #36 on: January 04, 2018, 10:18:08 AM »
Vince, no doubt I've learned a lot here.  I've also learned from attending or teaching clinics, visiting practices, studying film, etc.  But most of all, I've learned from doing.  Coaching the game and finding what worked for us and what didn't work and trying to apply that edge immediately, not somewhere down the line.  So while this site is helpful, I can't say that "most" of what I learned came from here.  Most of what I've learned has come from actually coaching, not reading a website.  Coaches have to go out into the field, find their coaching voice (i.e., through trial and error, learn what works and doesn't work for them), put their hands on bodies and just coach.  That's still the best way to learn.  Everything else just augments the on-the-field process.

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Re: What is your idea of conditioning?
« Reply #37 on: January 05, 2018, 10:50:49 AM »
There's always somebody who has a whistle.  People seem to like buying those.

Whistles are a pain in the ass. I have at least 20, but always seem to be looking for one. I get yelled at in practice if I need one and don't have one, which becomes apparent when I am forced to yell "WHISTLE!" or make a "tweet" sound.  Loud whistling through my teeth is a skill that always eluded me except for a brief period where I lost a front tooth to hockey. I got an implant post and for a brief time, I had a temporary tooth that allowed me to whistle loudly. When they put the permanent one in, my whistle was gone. :(

Worst for me is when I bring one to a game. I've caught myself getting ready to blow a play dead from the sideline more than once. I'm paranoid that I will actually blow it one day and get flagged. When I have those close calls, I put the whistle in the gear bag.
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Re: What is your idea of conditioning?
« Reply #38 on: January 05, 2018, 08:01:56 PM »
I tried not to bring a whistle on game day, because of my fear I'd whistle during warmups and interfere w a game in progress.  Usually warmups are close enough to the game field -- or somebody's game-or-something field -- that I wouldn't trust the sound not to be confusing.  I had to keep reminding them during split-field scrimmages to not have the offenses starting in the middle, but instead from either end, for that reason.

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Re: What is your idea of conditioning?
« Reply #39 on: January 05, 2018, 09:36:56 PM »
....or make a "tweet" sound.

I thought you were mocking me.  :P

Im a whistle guy as Lar can attest. Im not sure how anyone can function without one.
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Re: What is your idea of conditioning?
« Reply #40 on: January 06, 2018, 12:36:09 AM »
I tried not to bring a whistle on game day, because of my fear I'd whistle during warmups and interfere w a game in progress.  Usually warmups are close enough to the game field -- or somebody's game-or-something field -- that I wouldn't trust the sound not to be confusing.  I had to keep reminding them during split-field scrimmages to not have the offenses starting in the middle, but instead from either end, for that reason.

That doesn’t bother me in the least. Our header and my other o-line coach would “tell” me not to use my whistle in pre-game while other games were going on. I’d just give them the stink eye and keep tweeting to my little heart’s content. There are usually 5 games going on all around us and all you can hear is the sound of whistles.
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Re: What is your idea of conditioning?
« Reply #41 on: January 06, 2018, 12:38:15 AM »
I thought you were mocking me.  :P

Im a whistle guy as Lar can attest. Im not sure how anyone can function without one.

Pretty dumb to come down on the kids for coming to practice with missing gear and then not bother to bring a whistle.
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Re: What is your idea of conditioning?
« Reply #42 on: January 06, 2018, 09:44:19 PM »
How about the time you blew the whistle so loud they stopped playing baseball on the next field & 2 pickpockets dropped their loot?