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Offline bigshel

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Re: Tryouts
« Reply #30 on: January 26, 2018, 07:41:22 PM »
I’ve said many times that to infer that a male does not know how to coach football is to insult him to his core.  Most guys seem to believe that they already have the tools, despite never even having done it before.

In your case, you didn’t even suggest that they couldn’t coach, but that perhaps a systematic approach could help.  That’s alone is close enough to suggest that they don’t know what they’re doing.  And that makes them fighting words.

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I know right? It's like they think the ability to coach football is somehow genetically encoded. Thus, there's nothing that can be learned, or even improved upon.  ::)

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Re: Tryouts
« Reply #31 on: January 26, 2018, 08:12:50 PM »
I know right? It's like they think the ability to coach football is somehow genetically encoded. Thus, there's nothing that can be learned, or even improved upon.

I’ve been coaching for 26 seasons now.  I drove from North Carolina to Florida for this clinic.  In February, I have three more clinics scheduled.  Always be learning...

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Re: Tryouts
« Reply #32 on: January 26, 2018, 08:18:13 PM »
On the other hand, the weather down here is nice, I’m sitting in a restaurant at the Marriot World Center with a glass of merlot, so it’s ALL good.

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Re: Tryouts
« Reply #33 on: January 27, 2018, 10:39:27 AM »
I’ve said many times that to infer that a male does not know how to coach football is to insult him to his core.  Most guys seem to believe that they already have the tools, despite never even having done it before.


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Re: Tryouts
« Reply #34 on: February 01, 2018, 11:24:30 AM »
The disproportionate size of the orgs would/will be a huge issue with this, although IMO this type of stuff is already happening which is why the bigger orgs are so well represented in the bowl games. 

Allowing small orgs to combine may help but it flies in the face of those orgs that want to have community based programs, particularly if they insist on playing by the rules.  The first thing they'd need to stop doing is forcing teams up to D1.  I lost 1/3 of my team that year because parents had heard so many horror stories.  Then I've got 8 kids that have never played before trying to not get dead playing against stacked teams (recruiting and transfer rules be damned) when the requirement to make our roster includes a mirror and the ability to fog it.
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Re: Tryouts
« Reply #35 on: February 01, 2018, 01:26:57 PM »
The disproportionate size of the orgs would/will be a huge issue with this, although IMO this type of stuff is already happening which is why the bigger orgs are so well represented in the bowl games. 

Allowing small orgs to combine may help but it flies in the face of those orgs that want to have community based programs, particularly if they insist on playing by the rules.  The first thing they'd need to stop doing is forcing teams up to D1.  I lost 1/3 of my team that year because parents had heard so many horror stories.  Then I've got 8 kids that have never played before trying to not get dead playing against stacked teams (recruiting and transfer rules be damned) when the requirement to make our roster includes a mirror and the ability to fog it.

Good post. If you are not prepared to play in JMFA's D1 then you will indeed get your faces beat in. Period. The team that just won our Age Groups D1....probably the best youth team I have ever seen. Talent and coaching alike.  A machine that was build over many seasons on the sly. This can only happen in the mid sized Orgs.

I think what they are trying to do is create teams that are actually prepared allowing the rest of the league to enjoy a nice game of youth football.

I honestly believe the mid sized Orgs like BC, GM and LW set up nicely for this format while the bigger Orgs still get watered down by fielding multiple teams while the smallest Orgs like GA and SM get ousted.

I cant decide if it helps or hurts when it comes to all the shenanigans that goes on. Im leaning towards it helping clean some chit up. 

BTW...SJSA didn't field a 2nd grade team in 2017 for the first time since I got involved in 1988 with Columbine Youth Sports when my son started playing. Our Sport is dying.

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Re: Tryouts
« Reply #36 on: February 01, 2018, 01:43:59 PM »
I just re-read my post and didn't mean to sound bitter if it did. We'd still be JMFA if we hadn't gotten run off, I like the unlimited format.  I hope that this solution works out for them and fixes some of the issues they have with that division.

Most youth sports these days have their "select" or "elite" divisions/teams, making something like that available for this league could be a great thing.

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Re: Tryouts
« Reply #37 on: February 01, 2018, 01:48:34 PM »
I just re-read my post and didn't mean to sound bitter if it did. We'd still be JMFA if we hadn't gotten run off, I like the unlimited format.  I hope that this solution works out for them and fixes some of the issues they have with that division.

Most youth sports these days have their "select" or "elite" divisions/teams, making something like that available for this league could be a great thing.

Trust me....I have been just as bitter at times over the last 30 years.....but like you....I never snapped and always followed the Rules.
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Re: Tryouts
« Reply #38 on: February 01, 2018, 02:15:37 PM »
The first thing they'd need to stop doing is forcing teams up to D1. 

That is key to this tryout thing working. Then, there will have to some kind of "sandbagging" mitigation. AYL used to struggle with it, but it was self inflicted. There were rules against it, but they weren't enforced.

Carnation bowl participant? Move up or split.
Undefeated regular season? Move up or split.

If you're a team in a small org that can't split due to size, yet you meet one of the above criteria, you lose all of your "imports". They must return to their home club based on HS matriculation.

Or something along those lines.
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