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Offline gumby_in_co

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Re: Help me find the penalties
« Reply #15 on: April 02, 2018, 03:27:11 PM »
And I think it was a chickenshit call unless the official had already warned your kids.

Or if you're up by 40 points.
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Re: Help me find the penalties
« Reply #16 on: April 02, 2018, 03:50:49 PM »
Didnt look at all of them
First one was pretty easy- Left TE gets hands outside of Frame
If its near the POA like on this one- the refs catch a lot of those

And the ball goes out and the defender goes in.  A lot of times they're just going to assume he got yanked away from the POA.

The combination of the blocker's left arm being wide and the defender going the other way is going to get called a lot, even if the defender just decided to jump inside.
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Re: Help me find the penalties
« Reply #17 on: April 02, 2018, 03:53:13 PM »
New group. Ask Mahonz. After 10 minutes of practice, I have a migraine from yelling "SPLITS!". After 90 minutes, I'm pleading, "Hey buddy, how about you give me some splits, eh?"  >:(

I used to have a stick that was a couple inches shorter than the splits were supposed to be wide.

If I called "freeze" before a snap in practice, and then could't fit the stick between two linemen, the outside guy had push-ups.
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Re: Help me find the penalties
« Reply #18 on: April 02, 2018, 04:20:40 PM »
And the ball goes out and the defender goes in.  A lot of times they're just going to assume he got yanked away from the POA.

The combination of the blocker's left arm being wide and the defender going the other way is going to get called a lot, even if the defender just decided to jump inside.

That confirms what I always suspected. We're improving. For some reason, the preferred fit by most o-linemen is what I call the "bully push". Elbows out, hands going from their own chest to the block's chest, fingers splayed and vertical. We're at least attempting an uppercut punch, but those damn elbows . . .
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Re: Help me find the penalties
« Reply #19 on: April 02, 2018, 04:23:42 PM »
I used to have a stick that was a couple inches shorter than the splits were supposed to be wide.

If I called "freeze" before a snap in practice, and then could't fit the stick between two linemen, the outside guy had push-ups.

My preferred split is what I get when a lineman is trying to be a smartass and shut me up. Makes everyone else pucker. Backs and other coaches get really panicky.
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Re: Help me find the penalties
« Reply #20 on: April 02, 2018, 05:23:21 PM »
Got to be where SPLITS is the first thing I yell in O-Practice. Then I got past yelling and they ran Gassers (Before Practice Was Over). 

My Dad used to tell us "You guys will run until I'm tired!" Now I see why!!

Will be same this year too. 

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Re: Help me find the penalties
« Reply #21 on: April 03, 2018, 11:41:04 AM »
That confirms what I always suspected. We're improving. For some reason, the preferred fit by most o-linemen is what I call the "bully push". Elbows out, hands going from their own chest to the block's chest, fingers splayed and vertical. We're at least attempting an uppercut punch, but those damn elbows . . .

We penalize holding in every O-Line drill and in team, and the penalty can be a bitch.

The years we've done it, we've gotten almost no holding penalties.

The years I haven't been allowed to do it, we've gotten a ton of holding penalties.
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Re: Help me find the penalties
« Reply #22 on: April 03, 2018, 11:48:49 AM »
We penalize holding in every O-Line drill and in team, and the penalty can be a bitch.

The years we've done it, we've gotten almost no holding penalties.

The years I haven't been allowed to do it, we've gotten a ton of holding penalties.

What is your penalty?
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Re: Help me find the penalties
« Reply #23 on: April 03, 2018, 11:57:05 AM »
What is your penalty?

Usually we run our group near a sideline.

First hold of the day is running across the field and back (so about 100 yards, depending on exactly where we're lined up).

Next hold, by anyone, is two trips across the field.  So if you hold, and one guy held before you and got penalized, you get two trips.

And every hold continues to add an additional trip.

We've had kids run eight trips.  I remember announcing beforehand, "If you feel the need to hold so badly that it's worth about HALF A MILE of running, I guess you gotta do what you gotta do."

We often have a lot of holds in practice, but I call it really, really tight, and then explain to everyone why it was a hold.  Of course, the years we didn't penalize holding in practice, and had a lot in the game, every rep. of every drill seemed to involve holding.

In team, I usually just kick the kid out and send him for a lap.

The plus-one thing works really well, because the penalty can be brutal, but it's because the kids build it up to that.  It's not like when coaches announce some insanely harsh penalty right off the bat and everyone just thinks they're crazy.  One trip is not a big deal.  And then we go from there.
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