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Offline jmac56

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5-4 Defensive Information Needed
« on: August 16, 2018, 04:03:03 PM »
Hello,
     i have searched site and found some decent information, however I'm moving to the defensive side of the ball this year and need how to communicate to kids and play designs and calls.

Right now we are install mode, we just went over base and some shift and motion stuff last night but I'm not 100% overall about game play communication or stunts?

From what I read we are essentially covering all 8 gaps but trying to determine what interior line should be doing, looks like 2 gap responsibility?

Thanks,
JM

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Re: 5-4 Defensive Information Needed
« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2018, 10:46:15 PM »
Hello,
     i have searched site and found some decent information, however I'm moving to the defensive side of the ball this year and need how to communicate to kids and play designs and calls.

Right now we are install mode, we just went over base and some shift and motion stuff last night but I'm not 100% overall about game play communication or stunts?

From what I read we are essentially covering all 8 gaps but trying to determine what interior line should be doing, looks like 2 gap responsibility?

Thanks,
JM

If you're not sure how to teach 2 gapping, don't teach 2 gapping.  It can complicate things for the LBs, particularly, on their fit and make them play slow.

It's simple to play a shell game with the interior DL by slanting them one way and just having the LBs fit into the opposite gaps to help clean things up.

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Re: 5-4 Defensive Information Needed
« Reply #3 on: August 24, 2018, 11:16:25 PM »
DT's do have "2 gap" responsibility which is defended by "forearm shiver".  PM if you want to use it. 

While NG looks like a "2 gap" defender most 5-4's will have him rip the center's hiking hand.  Not only is it easier to get by him that way but most youth run plays are to the right and most youth centers are right handed so your NG not only has the odds of beating the center but also of doing it play side.

There are not many calls in a 5-4.  In fact, the most frequent call is to get out of it (Either into 6-1 or 8-3 or both).

You didn't ask but your two corners/safeties are usually "tiny tots" unfit to make a tackle.  Their most common instruction is "Nobody gets behind you."

They are there for the two times in a game the offense throws.

They keep the receiver in front of them for a reason.  Most 5-4 teams face inaccurate QB's and the ball is usually thrown high to get it over the line.  The intended receiver often jumps up in the air to catch the high ball.  The small "tiny tot" defender times his hit to the receiver's heels from behind with the catch.  The receiver's head goes down as his feet go up, he lands on his helmet, his bell is rung, and the ball rolls loose incomplete.  He's still seeing stars.

I won five championships with 5-4 but I probably wouldn't have won any without the 6-1 and 8-3 calls.  5-4 is just too easy to game plan against.

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