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Offline DumCoach

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A happy DC46 coach
« on: November 01, 2018, 05:06:34 PM »
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Coach - I want to thank you for sharing the 46 Defense. 

This season, we fielded an "athletically solid" Pop Warner JV team.  In 2017 we made it to the Pop Warner Super Bowl D3 Invitational, winning both tournament games at Disney. Needless to say, the local league official decided to move our entire association up to the D2 level.

Tall task as we began our season against the defending D2 JV 2017 Pop Warner Superbowl Champions, Westchase Colts.  They're an explosive Wing T team that averaged about 30+ points per game. The majority of the teams they played were "mercy ruled" (even the Championship Game at Disney) within 2-3 quarters.  Their 2018 looked even scarier than the 2017 unit.

In our season opener against Westchase, with the DC46, we forced 4 turnovers and held them to 6 points on the day, giving up the game 6-0.  We cruised through the season giving up just 50 total points in 9 games - Literally, every point scored on us was an assignment bust.

We finished our season in a 1-loss 3-way tie for 1st place with Westchase Colts and Manatee Mustangs, another D2 juggernaut for years in our area (We beat them 8-0 in regular season play).  We played a "Kansas City Tiebreaker" to determine the #1,2 and 3 seed! Ball is placed on the 10 with 4 downs to score - each team gets a try. We were paired with Westchase in the 1st round.  We scored in two plays and then shut them down, holding their explosive offense to 5 yards in 4 tries.  We beat Manatee 8-6, blocking their 2pt attempt.

We faced off with Westchase for the Conference Championship in a tough battle deadlocked 6-6 until the seconds of the game.  In the closing seconds we opted to not punt to flip the field with about :40 left in regulation. We turned over on downs. A questionable down field "targeting" call  :-X and a pretty well designed rub route where we didn't get a good jam on their WB - cost us the game with :16 left on the clock. Heck of a game!

Great season, the boys absolutely loved the defense.  We mimicked the Miami Hurricanes turnover chain concept. The really fed off of that that.  We had nearly 60 turnovers for the season! THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU! Can't wait to run it next season with our next group of young men!

Coach Mike Brown
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Re: A happy DC46 coach
« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2018, 08:05:32 AM »
When the base is stritcly adhered to, it is fun defense. if you're stuck running O, choose your DC carefully.

To me, disruptive Nick play, Clyde playing as much LB as CB, and SAM on the LOS are curcial against most sets. Wish I had coached the D. Skill maintenance - crucial, throught the season.

Slower players at any position can hurt you - speed them up.

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Re: A happy DC46 coach
« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2018, 02:21:24 AM »

Slower players at any position can hurt you - speed them up.

I developed the manual's speed drill specifically for this.
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Re: A happy DC46 coach
« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2018, 06:13:20 PM »
When the base is stritcly adhered to, it is fun defense. if you're stuck running O, choose your DC carefully.

To me, disruptive Nick play, Clyde playing as much LB as CB, and SAM on the LOS are curcial against most sets. Wish I had coached the D. Skill maintenance - crucial, throught the season.

Slower players at any position can hurt you - speed them up.
Agreed. My Nick was a real mauler, 2nd team FB. Very quick off of the ball and strong. Drills are absolutely key for muscle memory and fast play. As the season progressed, we really tried to maximize the number of reps we did in our Indy time. Man, It's a beautiful thing to behold when they're in "auto-pilot".  Too bad the league doesn't permit lawn chairs on the sidelines 8). Nothing wrong with a pocket full of popcorn though.  ;)

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Re: A happy DC46 coach
« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2018, 03:37:37 AM »
Another coach just won his state championship running dc-wing-t and dc46.  He's reluctant to post now for fear of the opposition listening in but promises he will.
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Re: A happy DC46 coach
« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2018, 05:11:37 PM »
Another coach just won his state championship running dc-wing-t and dc46.  He's reluctant to post now for fear of the opposition listening in but promises he will.
that's awesome. Coach, I'd really like to see our Offense run the DC Wing T system this season. We have an off-planning meeting for the 2019 season. I'm really hoping it works out.  Do you have any success stats or data that will assist me in building my case? 

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Re: A happy DC46 coach
« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2018, 06:36:35 PM »
that's awesome. Coach, I'd really like to see our Offense run the DC Wing T system this season. We have an off-planning meeting for the 2019 season. I'm really hoping it works out.  Do you have any success stats or data that will assist me in building my case?

No.  I don't.  I have done that with my defenses but not my offense.  There's an old saying that "offense fills the stands but defense wins championships."  I came up with DCWT to fill the stands and Killer Bee and DC46 to win championships.  Lots of DCWT coaches make their championship but usually run one of my D's too.  On defense I played my best 11.  The offense got everyone else.  The offense always had two worthless players.  It's much easier to hide poor players on offense than defense (Just don't run to the side they're on and find the one thing they do well and let them do it all the time.).

Creating Mismatches: In most youth offenses only two kids get the ball and maybe another kid once.  But you'll find more successful offenses more consistently get the ball to three players.  The reason for that is that most youth defenses have two studs and they assign them to middle of the field (usually at inside LBer) and let them pursue sideline to sideline.  Most will assign their two studs to their opponent's two studs, the offense's two studs normally being in the backfield.  So when they see the DCWT they tend to assign their studs like this (see W and M):

                W  M

      O      O O0O O  O
                    O                   O
                O  O

They do this because they ASSuME that my HB and FB are my two best players. This is incorrect.  My WB should be a faster player with better hands than my FB.  Being on the right hand side of the formation he can catch a pass against the right side corner or run against the left side corner.  Even if those two corners are their #3 and #4 top players I can still match my best on their #4.

But, most times I won't see a #4 top defender at left corner.  They can look at my SE and spot he's my 11th best out on the field.  They don't want to waste a good corner on him so, instead, they'll put #4 on the TE when they see that nasty split.  So their top four look like this:

                W  M      S            C

      O      O O0O O  O
                    O                     O
                O  O

Most youth teams run predominantly right 80% of the time, stacking the best of their offensive line to that side.  Defenses then stack their best defensive linemen to that side as well (offenses's right).  To keep them thinking this way, I line up that little SE on the left.  They will identify his as a "wasted player" or MPP.  Some of your opening opponents might even cover him with an MPP of their own (But that won't last long).  So now the defense starts looking like this:

       c        W  M      S            C
             e    t   T          E
      O       O O0O O  O
                    O                     O
                O  O

The players in caps (W, M, S, C, T and E) are their best but the three in small letters (c, e, t and especially t) suffer a drop off.  To create a mismatch, I play a good LT and LG to get this:

       c        W  M      S            C
             e    t   T          E
      O       O O0O O  O
                    O                     O
                O  O

So you can stand up and make a presentation of the formation, pointing out the SE is a little tiny guy, the line splits, and then starting asking your coaching audience how they'd defend it, starting by where to put your best players (Make sure you ask how far back #2 and #1 are) and put them up by numbers like this:

       7        2  1      3            4
             6    9   8          5
      O       O O0O O  O
                    O                     O
                O  O

And, in fact, #9 might very end up being #11 when they're done.  Ask the DE assignments.  Now put two "+" signs inside LT and LG to signify they're your best blockers, another in the HB and WB to show best runners, and put the WB in motion.  Look at how your best match up to their best, especially if WB runs left.

You will create mismatches all over the field.  Mismatches score TD's.

Filling the stands with offense:  Once you create mismatches you can create successful plays to unsuccessful players.  The TE is "nasty" split to not only keep the DE away from the "24" play but also allow the SE to run the "6" hole on reverse ("Fake Speed 56 Reverse") or counter ("Left 56 Kick").  Because the SE ran inside the DE's contain (who is defending the #8 hole) he always gets past the DE and then he's off to the races.  There's no one there.  Why is there no one there?  Those good defenders on the right start learning to move to help out the weaker defenders on the left or it could be the corner on the right took the WB in motion, but they're gone. 

So now your worst kid is running for TD's and the parents of that kid think you're GREAT.

You can even throw a pass.  The DCWT uses three things to help the passing game.  First, instead of using drop back pass protection (which is only as good as your worst blocker) it uses sprint out out passing like Joe Theissman used to use.  Run away from the guys that can't block.  The big FB always takes the DE to the roll out side.  That's putting your #3 on their #5 or #6 or another mismatch.  QB either throws or keeps on going.  Second, the throw is only about 15 yards because the receivers do not line up very far out (but they're not in a DW phone booth either.).  Third, all three receivers are on the same side of the field he's on and running in the same direction he is.  Throwing to receivers running in the same direction as the QB are the easiest passes to complete.  Your odds are 65% you hit the receiver in the hands.  You can actually hit all four receivers at least once in every game.  It's known as "spreading the ball" but I call it spreading the fun.  The parents of those kids are happy.  Even the QB can catch a pass for a TD ("SE Pass to QB") run for a TD ("QB Wedge") or a first down (keep on Pass/Run Option as the defender assigned to him, the DE, just got run over by our FB.).  These are all simple plays.

You're spreading the ball includes trick plays.  The HB alone has three ("33 Quick", "Left 32 Trap", and "Hitch and lateral").  Parents always like to see trick plays that work. You're spreading the ball so much that the FB really only gets the ball on first downs.  He might only get 2-3 carries in a seven play TD drive.  That means 4-5 others got the ball.  You will look like a genius.   No more parents following you around after a game with advice.

Presenting the offense to coaching staff: There are two ways to present the offense.  Both are visual:

Flip chart Presentation:  This is X's and O's on an easel.   You can actually watch me do it on a DVD for a coaching clinic (And it is called Flip Chart Presentation.  You can get it for $ 30.

It works something like this.  You start diagramming plays like "23":

       7        2  1      3            4
             6    9   8          5
      O       O O0O O  O
                    O                     O
                O  O


 Run "23" with HB on #2. LT and LG on #9 with LT combo'ing up to #1.   If DE has contain he's not going inside. So FB runs 5 yards (To the depth of #2 and #1). 

Now put a "-" sign in the RT (not a good blocker) and run "24" letting FB cut the opposite way of defender over RT and WB on #1 and RG on #2.  TE on #3.  Are 1,2,and 3 at 5 yards?  Then you probably gained 5 yards. 

They will ask, "Who is blocking #5 and #6?"
And the answer is "No one". 
"Then what happens if they go inside to make the tackle?"
Let them.  Just watch the DE to the play side called. If he goes inside to make the tackle and makes it.  Won't he do it next play too?  Because if the play side DE goes inside, the next play call is OUTSIDE HIM (Even if 23/24 worked we don't call it twice in a row.  If we got our 5 yards on first down we want to run a bigger yardage play on second down.  We can always go back to to the FB on third down to get the first.).

Now put a "+" sign on the WB and HB and run "47 Speed".  They'll argue you can't pull LG (Center has him with left hand up on snap).   If they still don't believe run "Super 45".  Or run "Pass Left" .  SE is only 4 yards out on pass and runs 10 yards downfield off his track block.   HB runs down and out.  TE runs post.  QB fakes "45 hand off" and roll out left with Run/Pass option.  The option to run is very important because the only defender in a position to rush the QB is the DE who has lined up to close to LT and just got blocked by our big FB.    So who has QB if all receivers are covered?  He'll usually gain 7-10 yards.

FILM:  If you hold your meeting at a pizza parlor, many have closed screen TV's you can put your DVD in.  The best DVD to put in is my PowerPoint.  It's great.  It covers everything and has over 90 film clips.  It might be nice to have a laser pointer to point how close the SE is to LT and how WB always goes in motion in the first few clips of the "Oklahoma Cowboys" which starts the show.  The PowerPoint is $ 60 but well worth it.

EXPOSING THE PROBLEM OF SPREAD:   "Spread" is a very successful offense and will be around a while.  You may have coaches that will want to run it.  However, it's not well suited for inexperienced players or inexperienced coaches.  It comes down to the formation:



         O                   O  O 0 O  O                   O
                   O                                  O
                                      OO

The limited talent lets you defend the whole thing with four players:

                      1           2    3         4

         O                   O  O 0 O  O                   O
                   O                                  O
                                      OO 

Again, I'm describing some youth coach trying to run this offense from watching TV and not Joe here.  But the moment you put two SE's out that wide you can't hit them.  You're also using "pocket pass" protection which makes it really hard to hit a slot on an "out" route at younger ages.  Yes - I'm sure somebody has a QB somewhere that can hit it but does every team have one?  I say no. 

And then he has to run zone blocking but, when he does, he's going to make a change and reduce his splits. He's never been a line coach and he's coaching an age level that does not handle big splits well.  It's not going to work like he imagined.  Yes.  Mahonz and Brian Rosenthal can make it work but are they on your schedule?  Most likely you're playing in a ten team league.  The odds of running into a well coached spread team are not good.  The best way for an inexperienced coach to win with a spread team is to face another inexperienced coach with a spread team.

And, if you do face good "Spread" teams, simply defend it with my Killer Bee.  You'll give them a very long day. 

I will shorten the manual for you and by quite a bit. 
« Last Edit: December 08, 2018, 01:02:21 AM by DumCoach »
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Re: A happy DC46 coach
« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2018, 02:15:46 PM »
Hi Coach - pardon the delay.

This is brilliant. I really like the scheme. I'm a "system guy" and have never been a fan of a grab-bag playbook.  Drives me nuts   These concepts appear very easy to teach and install.  I think will the overall talent we have year over year, this would really give us give us a chance to put up good numbers on the scoreboard and give the fans (and the boys) an offensive product that they can be proud of on game day.  I'll lift this up in our next coaching meeting and see what we get back.  I really appreciate all of your assistance and support.