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ILBs Blitz tech and not over penetrating
« on: November 05, 2018, 07:35:35 PM »
Guys,

Help me out, my ILBs consistently over penetrate. Whoosh...5 yards past the ball carrier.

I have lined up garbage cans and had them blitz, come to balance/breakdown/shimmy (whatever you want to call it) numerous times. Then the same thing with a redirect on hand signals, following a ball carrier etc.

I must suck as they keep going to deep.

Give me some of your insight to help fix this.

Thanks.

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Re: ILBs Blitz tech and not over penetrating
« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2018, 08:27:26 PM »
Have them reading their keys and carrying out their reaction while they blitz.  What are they watching as they rush?  What's the aiming point (make sure it's a player, not just a landmark on the field)?  Are you sending them as run blitzes or to get a pass rush?

One thing is to stress that they need to stay under control while running.  They're not just seeing who can run upfield the fastest.

The old ball pursuit drill is good for this.  Be the QB with a ball.  Simulate the snap, then show them some different looks:

1.  Dropback pass.
2.  Handoff
3.  Draw (pass drop, then hand off or run upfield)
4.  Bootleg (fake handoff, then boot)
5.  Sprint Out Pass (take snap and immediately roll out)
6.  Toss Sweep

Have another player be your "rabbit" they have to touch with 2 hands and proper leverage.  If you want to add a 2nd "rabbit" into the drill, split someone out wide to throw to so the DBs have to cover and break on a ball.  Make it an easy INT for them so they can catch it and then return the INT.
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Re: ILBs Blitz tech and not over penetrating
« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2018, 08:45:41 PM »
Yours is the biggest problem with Blitzing at the younger ages.  I used to say "Blitzing FOR effect vs Blitzing TO Effect".  It's no different with the DE's in the 6-3 Defense.   I agree Give them Keys and insist they follow.  Blitzing for effect is exactly as you describe. A head long charge into the backfield with little result.  Blitzing to effect is more like a precision strike on a target or target to effect the play. Since the marority of what we see in the Youth Game are Runs.  We are essentially Blizting to attack the Runner. 

How effective the Blitz is is dependant upon IF we Coaches picked the right one. 

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Re: ILBs Blitz tech and not over penetrating
« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2018, 09:20:51 PM »
I have lined up garbage cans and had them blitz, come to balance/breakdown/shimmy (whatever you want to call it) numerous times. Then the same thing with a redirect on hand signals, following a ball carrier etc.

Do they know why they are blitzing and what they're supposed to accomplish?  Every day at practice I see coaches telling their players what to do, but I'm not so sure the players understand.  90% of what I see is generalized and not specific.  And coaches "instruction" is often little more than cheerleading ("Way to go Johnny!"), cliches ("Low man wins"), ineffectual correction ("Stop dropping the ball!") or plain old waste of time ("You've got to want it!"). Offering stock phrases ("You've got to hit him before he hits you.") really does no good if not accompanied with thorough and insightful teaching of what the mission is and how to be successful at it.

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Re: ILBs Blitz tech and not over penetrating
« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2018, 09:22:02 PM »
The old ball pursuit drill is good for this.
Calcoach, is that what you meant by "redirect on hand signals"?

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Re: ILBs Blitz tech and not over penetrating
« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2018, 09:59:25 PM »
The old ball pursuit drill is good for this.

Absolutely.  ^

I invest a lot in coaching "eyes."  "Where are your eyes?"  "Look here!  See this!"  And tell them what to see; what they should be looking for.  In any number of drills, you will hear me hollering "Eyes, eyes, eyes!"

I see a lot of coaches TELL their players to pursue.  And then much less instruction and reps applied.  Then, when I see application, it's of such a poor standard that it's worthless.  Then the coaches complain to the players about how much time they have to spend on this, when there's been too much time spent, but very little investment of quality (if any at all). 

Know what you're looking for.  Rep with successful conclusions so that players will understand what "success" looks like.  Rep backwards so they know where to end up.

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Re: ILBs Blitz tech and not over penetrating
« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2018, 10:12:46 PM »
We had this problem once.

We did a layered drill

----------coach

--^-------------^----------^
--^-------------^----------^
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------------b------b

The 0's are live blockers. Cornes have tennisballs on them...first row is 3 steps off the oline. Once the kids break the line coach points left or right. Points toward is first row, points side ways  is second... pass drop is third. He will point left or right. Defender needed to get to the tennis ball before the blockers chased them off.

This worked on blocking, blitzing and pursuit for us.
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Re: ILBs Blitz tech and not over penetrating
« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2018, 12:04:08 PM »
Have them reading their keys and carrying out their reaction while they blitz.  What are they watching as they rush?  Watching their keys. Dependent on the backfield. FB if in I, QB if empty etc.What's the aiming point (make sure it's a player, not just a landmark on the field)?I have two ILBs. aiming points are the jersey number to their side (outerpec)  Are you sending them as run blitzes or to get a pass rush? We do both. Run blitzes I have them more squared up with the LOS to control gaps on the way through, pass blitzes I have coached them to get skinny but it tends to confuse them

One thing is to stress that they need to stay under control while running.  They're not just seeing who can run upfield the fastest.

The old ball pursuit drill is good for this.  Be the QB with a ball.  Simulate the snap, then show them some different looks:

1.  Dropback pass.
2.  Handoff
3.  Draw (pass drop, then hand off or run upfield)
4.  Bootleg (fake handoff, then boot)
5.  Sprint Out Pass (take snap and immediately roll out)
6.  Toss Sweep

Have another player be your "rabbit" they have to touch with 2 hands and proper leverage.  If you want to add a 2nd "rabbit" into the drill, split someone out wide to throw to so the DBs have to cover and break on a ball.  Make it an easy INT for them so they can catch it and then return the INT.

The drill I was working was set up garbage cans for Oline. Then I stand at around 8 yards in the backfield. The get into alignment, stance, and on whistle (should use a kid to move ball here now that I wrote it!!) they fire off. The first times I have them simply breakdown/come to balance at heel/ass depth of where the oline would be. After that they are keying me. They blitz and redirect based on where I point. I will also give "Thumbs up" and they are to sprint to my outside shoulders (pass simulation)

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Re: ILBs Blitz tech and not over penetrating
« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2018, 01:19:56 PM »
The drill I was working was set up garbage cans for Oline. Then I stand at around 8 yards in the backfield. The get into alignment, stance, and on whistle (should use a kid to move ball here now that I wrote it!!) they fire off. The first times I have them simply breakdown/come to balance at heel/ass depth of where the oline would be. After that they are keying me. They blitz and redirect based on where I point. I will also give "Thumbs up" and they are to sprint to my outside shoulders (pass simulation)

Age group?
Of course all advice is just a guess when you can't really see how the the coach is running the drill.  However...why are you at 8-yards depth?  I don't favor movement on a whistle; I favor stopping on a whistle.  I'm not a settle/breakdown/cometobalance guy.  Never have been.  I surely wouldn't be breaking down at the LOS.  After that, they are keying you?  I would have them keying me before the ball is snapped and through the entirety of the play (it is a blitz, isn't it?). They blitz and redirect based on where you point?  Is that what your opponent does in a game?  My point is that some kids (and the younger, the more I see it), don't equate a teaching drill with "real football."  Perhaps trying to make the drill as close to real football as possible, will help.

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