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Re: My 2019 Spring Season Games 1-6. GM7
« Reply #30 on: May 14, 2019, 01:26:29 PM »
Sad sack, "woe is me" HC. He approached us several times prior to our game with him lamenting his situation and the general unfairness of life.

Actually, this is most youth coaches.  They not only do the pre-game "don't beat us too badly" plea, they're also the one's who complain about their schedule, or the division they're in, or who shouldn't be in their division, or who should be in their division.  Basically, they're scared to coach because they're scared to get beat and would rather be a Paper Lion.  I used to see these guys every year at the conference meetings. 

In 2009, I had an opposing coach give me one of those "Take it easy on us today...we don't have any speed...our kids are young" etc., spiels before the game.  This guy had won two national championships as a header and had been in three consecutive national championship games.  I wonder if he still sleeps with the light on.

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Re: My 2019 Spring Season Games 1-6. GM7
« Reply #31 on: May 14, 2019, 01:32:28 PM »
The second huge mistake . . . I let myself get really sensitive over the "running up the score" issue

--(Grinding teeth)...

that largely came from a former parent who happens to be a well established and respected referee telling me that I have "lost track of what the game is about".

--Did you ask him what it was about?  I would have told him the game was "about 40 minutes."

I called it the "travesty" call. If diving on the ground to let the other team score, taking a knee, or punting on 1st down is your thing . . that's cool. It's not my thing.

--It's not my thing, either.  Ever.

With Mahonz' and the HC's permission, I instructed the team that if we were one score away from mercy, we would call time out and call "travesty". This means that if any of our players is about to score, they are to throw the ball out of the back of the endzone from the 5 yard line. Turnover and touch back for the losing team. Everybody wins, everybody is happy, except the officials and the league who hopefully will see how stupid mercy rules are.

--LOL.  Hilarious!  I'd love to see that.

Fortunately, we never did this because the week 5 game had devolved into "Mad Max".

--You mean, "unfortunately."  As I said, I'd love to see it!

After that debacle, I took stock of myself and remembered that if you are successful, someone is going to have a problem with you no matter what you do.

--This ^ times 1,000.

The only people I owe anything to are our players my fellow coaches. I apologized to the team and other coaches for forgetting who I am and who we are. From now on, we do our thing.

--This ^ times 1,000.

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Re: My 2019 Spring Season Games 1-6. GM7
« Reply #32 on: May 14, 2019, 02:05:30 PM »
Then you can't complain about who they choose.  One of the stupidest rules I've ever heard of, for precisely the reason you mention.  The stupidity of those "in charge" is overwhelming.  I've got to find something else to do.

--Dave

This has been an odd year, to say the least. New division for us. New teams, new coaches, etc. The only video cameras I have seen all year have been ours, whether it's our game day video guy or one of our coaches scouting someone else. Literally no one else has film of anyone. Which brings me to this particular coaching staff. The 3 kids he picked:
Our QB (I get that)
Our kicker (???) (Lost our best kicker for the season due to injury)
Our back up FB (this is the kid with family in town)

If they'd watched film, I'm sure there are 8 guys they would have picked over a kicker and a backup blocking back.

This is the only mercy rule I've ever heard of that punishes individual players for success. I suppose it could be worse. The rule could allow the losing team to pick 3 kids to switch sides.  ::)
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Re: My 2019 Spring Season Games 1-6. GM7
« Reply #33 on: May 14, 2019, 02:15:25 PM »
Actually, this is most youth coaches.  They not only do the pre-game "don't beat us too badly" plea, they're also the one's who complain about their schedule, or the division they're in, or who shouldn't be in their division, or who should be in their division.  Basically, they're scared to coach because they're scared to get beat and would rather be a Paper Lion.  I used to see these guys every year at the conference meetings. 

In 2009, I had an opposing coach give me one of those "Take it easy on us today...we don't have any speed...our kids are young" etc., spiels before the game.  This guy had won two national championships as a header and had been in three consecutive national championship games.  I wonder if he still sleeps with the light on.

--Dave

The first conversation we had with this guy was week 1. He played the 1pm game. We were scheduled against the (now 4-2) "unbeatable" team at 5pm. HC and I were filming the 3pm game when he approached us.
"Hey. I'm organizing a meeting with the other coaches do get the league to 'do something' about the "unbeatable team". 
I said, "We plan on doing something about them. We're going to turn our boys loose on them and do our best to kick their asses."
"Have you seen them play?"
I replied, "On film."
"They haven't lost a game in 3 seasons."
I replied, "They haven't played us."

I'm sure I came across as cocky, but that beats showing your belly and pissing on yourself during the coin flip.

A few weeks later, he had a conversation with our HC.
"I don't know what to do. Only 7 kids came to practice the other day. I told them to run until they learn how to block. The league prez asked me to rank all the teams in the league. I see you and the "unbeatable team" (that we just beat) as D1. Everyone else is D2. I'm trying to get them to re-arrange the schedule so D2 will play D2."

As if 7 kids showing up to practice is 100% out of his control.
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Re: My 2019 Spring Season Games 1-6. GM7
« Reply #34 on: May 14, 2019, 02:17:00 PM »
--(Grinding teeth)...

Funny. I actually mentioned you by name to Mahonz when I came out of my feelings-induced stupor.
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Re: My 2019 Spring Season Games 1-6. GM7
« Reply #35 on: May 14, 2019, 02:20:27 PM »
--LOL.  Hilarious!  I'd love to see that.

Yeah. Sorry. Actually had a really quiet, shy kid (the backup BB who was pulled) approach me in private to tell me there's no way he'd do that.

We did score a PAT on a flapjack pass if you'd like to see that. It was a first for us . . . ever.
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Re: My 2019 Spring Season Games 1-6, GM7
« Reply #36 on: May 14, 2019, 02:50:26 PM »
Are your players getting much out of this spring football experience?

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Re: My 2019 Spring Season Games 1-6, GM7
« Reply #37 on: May 14, 2019, 03:27:10 PM »
Are your players getting much out of this spring football experience?

Most of them (nearly all of them) seem to be really enjoying themselves. Several of the freshmen are playing key roles and getting a lot more playing time than on their freshman teams. They are also in prominent leadership roles. We have 4 8th graders who are getting a ton of experience. The freshman have introduced them to HS football. One 8th grader broke his wrist and is out fo the season. He still comes to practice an puts himself through agilities/conditioning. He comes over an listens when we are teaching/installing anything o-line related. I told the freshmen who attend the HS he'll be going to to make sure their coach knows how this kid works on his own.

Also, two of the teams are VERY good, or at least the skill level is very high.

So yeah, they're getting something positive. It sure beats playing Fortnite or whatever the hell they do in the Spring.
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Re: My 2019 Spring Season Games 1-6. GM7
« Reply #38 on: May 14, 2019, 04:00:47 PM »
We did score a PAT on a flapjack pass if you'd like to see that. It was a first for us . . . ever.

Ah, the Flapjack!  The single best play in football (next to the Wedge, of course)!

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Re: My 2019 Spring Season Games 1-6. GM7
« Reply #39 on: May 14, 2019, 04:08:14 PM »
HC and I were filming the 3pm game when he approached us.
"Hey. I'm organizing a meeting with the other coaches do get the league to 'do something' about the "unbeatable team".

--Hilarious!  "Do something" about them?  But what does that even mean? loller  ;D

I'm sure I came across as cocky, but that beats showing your belly and pissing on yourself during the coin flip.

--What are you supposed to say?  "We're preparing to lose?"  Good grief, there are only 2 results to prepare for; winning or losing.  (I doubt that anyone's focus is on achieving a tie.) But I have known PLENTY of coaches whose objective was "not to get beaten too badly."  So they were obviously preparing to lose.  I'd walk away from their practice glad that I wasn't him.  And feeling badly that his players had him for a header.

A few weeks later, he had a conversation with our HC.
"I don't know what to do. Only 7 kids came to practice the other day. I told them to run until they learn how to block."

--lol.  Well, he did say, "I don't know what to do."  Guess he wanted to give you an example.

As if 7 kids showing up to practice is 100% out of his control.

--loller.  I know, I know....

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Re: My 2019 Spring Season Games 1-6. GM7
« Reply #40 on: May 14, 2019, 04:28:32 PM »
Ah, the Flapjack!  The single best play in football (next to the Wedge, of course)!

--Dave

We screwed it up, but 2 points is 2 points. Passes and kicks in the Spring league count as 2. Runs count as 1.

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Re: My 2019 Spring Season Games 1-6, GM7
« Reply #41 on: May 14, 2019, 04:33:12 PM »
I think part of it is that we are a 9th grade team and the other coaches are not happy about it.

By Rule that makes us an older lighter PW type team playing in an unlimited weight grade based League.

Thing is every Spring team has talented players...all of them. Some are truly loaded with some Dudes. There is a reason these kids want to play football in the Spring...they are football geeks and geeks tend to be pretty good at their job.

Its the coaching that is the problem. Its rare that a team has quality coaching. Last Saturday we out coached our way to a rather easy win even though the score was tight. They did score 6 points in the last 40 seconds of the game when we went for our 4th FG and it came up way short of the goal line...and they ran it back. So....an accidental score.

But the game was in hand by halftime because we played smart while they floundered.  That's pretty much how it goes most weeks vs the really good opponents.

I think the most fun Im having this season is watching the smallest player on our team play DT. He is nearly unblock-able while giving up a lot of pounds.
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Re: My 2019 Spring Season Games 1-6, GM7, GM8
« Reply #42 on: May 19, 2019, 04:40:08 AM »
GAME EIGHT

Our new QB, holder, punter did well.

Threw 3 TD passes running A 11, maybe 50 yards rushing running speed option out of the A 11 and he had one booming punt.

We even ran some UBSW spinner for grins.  8) We put it in this week in 20 minutes. Surprisingly, they did pretty well with it but this opponent was dogshit.

Fun game. We finish the season undefeated. Our undersized team is loaded with speed and man can this group tackle. We practice tackling like...never. How is this possible? They are all experienced and the DC has them in the right place at the right time post snap.  They practice that a lot. 

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Re: My 2019 Spring Season Games 1-6. GM7
« Reply #43 on: May 22, 2019, 04:40:25 PM »
Week 6: 8 man game vs Week 5 opponent. Well behaved for the most part, except for 1 kid. Opponent would drive the ball down the field, or at least move the ball on us, then put the girl in to throw up a duck. I think we picked her off 5 times, twice for TDs. During a long INT return, #31 on their team from the WR position was running down the field to pursue the returner. Along the way, he saw our only big guy at 220lbs and ran a wide path around him. He then made a bee line to a smaller player, 5'5, 150lb NT and blind sided him, knocking him horizontal onto his head. Concussion. Kid missed the last game and we're not sure about this week. #31 was the "head slapper" from week 5 (think Deacon Jones), so I went to film to see what other shenanigans he got up to. #31 did not do a damn thing that entire game except to blind side a DT during an INT return. Another case of trying (and succeeding) to hurt someone instead of tackling a BC. The entire game, not one block, not one tackle. He had one 3 yard reception, but other than that . . .nada.


I'm really familiar with both this coach and #31.

#31 played for me a few seasons ago.   His family was frustrated with his role on my team so they went and played for another team where he received exactly the minimum number of plays.  He got a championship hoodie out of the deal though so I'm sure he's happy.  Last season his mother called and asked, halfway through the season, if he could come back and play for us since he wasn't getting to play for his championship team.  That was a no-go.

He should be going to HS with my son (just saw him at continuation yesterday) but optioned to another local HS because they are "better at football". I doubt he'll get much playing time. 

His behavior in your game doesn't surprise me much.

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Re: My 2019 Spring Season Games 1-6, GM7, GM8
« Reply #44 on: May 23, 2019, 09:34:04 AM »
The first conversation we had with this guy was week 1. He played the 1pm game. We were scheduled against the (now 4-2) "unbeatable" team at 5pm. HC and I were filming the 3pm game when he approached us.
"Hey. I'm organizing a meeting with the other coaches do get the league to 'do something' about the "unbeatable team". 
I said, "We plan on doing something about them. We're going to turn our boys loose on them and do our best to kick their asses."
"Have you seen them play?"
I replied, "On film."
"They haven't lost a game in 3 seasons."
I replied, "They haven't played us."

I'm sure I came across as cocky, but that beats showing your belly and pissing on yourself during the coin flip.

A few weeks later, he had a conversation with our HC.
"I don't know what to do. Only 7 kids came to practice the other day. I told them to run until they learn how to block. The league prez asked me to rank all the teams in the league. I see you and the "unbeatable team" (that we just beat) as D1. Everyone else is D2. I'm trying to get them to re-arrange the schedule so D2 will play D2."

As if 7 kids showing up to practice is 100% out of his control.
What I don't get is how does running teach one to block? What did he hope to accomplish? Make the 7 kids who did come to practice, not want to come back to practice?