Author Topic: What Offenses are Hurt by Pop Warners New Rules? What Is Best to Run Now????  (Read 803 times)

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Offline SingleWingGoombah

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You can do anything you want except put your hand in the ground.

Time to figure out a sick 3 point stance where you put your hand on your foot.

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Time to figure out a sick 3 point stance where you put your hand on your foot.

Or ankles ;)
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Offline CHARLIEDONTSURF

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I wonder if we won't see the law of unintended consequences rear its head on this 3-pt stance thing.

Each season I see very few youth football players properly fire out of a 3-point stance.  Very few.  You know what most kids in a 3-point stance do after the ball is snapped?  Stand straight up.

It's confirmation bias on my part, but when I scout a team and all their kiddos are in 2- or 4-point stances, I pay attention.  The physics and leverage tend to be a lot better - not because there's anything better about these techniques, but because young kids can execute them faster (on average) and, in the case of a 4-pt stance, it's easier for even an awkward kid to fire out and stay low. 

Kinetic energy is related to mass, but it's related exponentially to velocity.  I don't think it'll matter much in Mitey Mite (they eliminated 3-pt last year), but, in JPW, I think what you're going to get is more kids crashing into each other at the line of scrimmage with bad technique on every play.  Maybe that will reduce helmet-to-helmet hits, I don't know, but I think comes with two costs: 1) more high speed collisions at the line, and 2) a general increase in the average kinetic energy of every play.

You don't need to hit a kid in the head to cause a head injury.  If you whiplash a kid and his brain sloshes against the inside of his skull, or if you hit him so hard he falls down and smacks his head on the ground, well, those ain't good either.

I'm sure our Pop Warner overlords have run their climate-change models and know what they're doing :)

Offline Bob Goodman

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Somebody will figure out where you are going with this and they will make it illegal. The thing I used to like about PW is that besides the weighted thing and the mercy rule their rules did not effect game play. Meaning they had no weird rules within the competitive levels. The rules were the same as fed rules.
No, they've long had a few things different.  I remember looking at their rules ca. 1980, and they had 1 pt. for a TD on a try, 2 pts. for a FG on a try (which is very widely done in kiddie ball; I don't think they ever adopted 6-man's 4-pt. RG, though), 5 team time outs per half, and 35 secs. to put the ball in play.
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I hate when leagues have bizarre rules.
What makes a rule bizarre?  Just the fact that it's used only in a small circuit?  Like the NFL?

Offline Bob Goodman

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You can do anything you want except put your hand in the ground.
You sure?  I bet they write it as "on or near".  Or as "real or simulated 3- or 4-point stance".