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Blocking Scheme for new formation
« on: March 06, 2019, 11:33:18 PM »
Hello all,

I plan on bringing a new formation and system of plays for my 5th Grade team this season. It's a bit different formation then we have run in the past. I was curious what the best blocking scheme would be for the attached set of plays. I want to make it as easy as possible for them but I also want to do something that nobody else in our league does. Everyone usually does straight up man blocking and from what I could tell last season, we were the only ones to pull our guards.

There are a few plays in the playbook that call for our tackles and guards but overall I am hoping to find a good blocking scheme for the other plays. I have looked at some of zone blocking but not sure if it would be the best fit for this formation.

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

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Re: Blocking Scheme for new formation
« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2019, 07:43:17 AM »
Chris

I had looked at the one you sent me. I have just been so busy at the New School. There is one thing that just glares at me. Why on Jet are you down blocking instead of reaching?

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Re: Blocking Scheme for new formation
« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2019, 08:02:27 AM »
Which plays do you actually need help figuring out blocking rules for?

From your post, I thought you wanted a single scheme to use on all your plays in this specific formation.

Then when I looked at your playbook, I saw that you were using different schemes for different plays, which is better.

Do you want help coming up with rules for how to block the Power, Sweep, Dive, and Trap schemes?

For Jet Sweep, I'm not sure why you're trying to pin everyone in the diagram.  A full reach scheme makes the most sense.  No one inside a 4 tech should be able to make that play, anyway, but you do need to get the edge players blocked.

The Dive scheme should be the simplest to teach.  Here it looks like you want to use a wedge scheme, which is fine, but you could also teach GOB (inside Gap, On, Backer) or OIL (On, Inside, Linebacker) to teach a base blocking scheme for what amounts to straight up drive blocking.

For Trap and Power there's a lot of nuance to coaching those schemes effectively.  GDB is a good rule for everyone from the C to the POA--"Gap, Down, Backer"--inside gap to head up on your inside teammate to the backside 'backer.  Beyond that, there's more complexity if you want to really get good at a Power scheme or a Trap scheme.
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Re: Blocking Scheme for new formation
« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2019, 08:49:29 AM »
How do you want to block each play?

Schemes require assignments for players
Assignments require programming of players, ie rules!

So each scheme will be made up or created by the combination of rules that you assign to players


Now, no need to reinvent the wheel....the wing T for example has plenty of blocking schemes that you can borrow from and learn rules from....


“ I just want to keep it simple” isn’t a scheme or a rule, it’s a cop out from learning schemes and rules. I can help if you can maybe draw up how you’d like to block plays.
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Re: Blocking Scheme for new formation
« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2019, 09:12:21 AM »
Tito just put out some videos on some of his base plays to include the blocking schemes. They will help with some general ideas. Jet needs to be at least a reach scheme and I would also pull both guards or the center if you can teach him to do it. Maybe a pin and pull scheme. Power is a down blocking play with a kick out and a pull to backers. Your power scheme is more of counter scheme in my world. Which will work but I think having an actual power scheme and a counter scheme would be better. Dive is fine but I would look into the wing t belly play for that. Look into gut/tug for cross blocking on that. I would rather run qb iso/lead honestly but dive is a nice quick hitter if you want it. A real simple rule for down blocking plays for the non puller positions is simply sab. GDB works as a good univeral rule as well. With GOB or GDB make sure you are teaching the oline how to attack backers.

Steve has it right. Don't reinvent the wheel and looking to the wing t for blocking schemes is a very good idea. Or just say screw it and just run iz, oz and counter. Funny now that I am not coaching I am reading up on zone schemes and am having many DOH! moments.

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Re: Blocking Scheme for new formation
« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2019, 09:49:49 AM »
 block closest threat to the hole is a good place to start 😎

 
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Re: Blocking Scheme for new formation
« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2019, 10:13:27 AM »
Then when I looked at your playbook

Playbook?  All I saw were 2 formations.

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Re: Blocking Scheme for new formation
« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2019, 11:53:01 AM »
Playbook?  All I saw were 2 formations.

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Re: Blocking Scheme for new formation
« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2019, 12:22:52 PM »
I like to pull guards and tackles. I even saw some plays where North Dakota State pulled the backside tight end on a sweep.

What kind of defenses will you be facing this fall, odd or even?

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Re: Blocking Scheme for new formation
« Reply #9 on: March 07, 2019, 12:46:13 PM »
I like to pull guards and tackles. I even saw some plays where North Dakota State pulled the backside tight end on a sweep.

What kind of defenses will you be facing this fall, odd or even?
Many dw guys will pull the bste. Remeber that NDSU has one heck of an oline.

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Re: Blocking Scheme for new formation
« Reply #10 on: March 07, 2019, 02:00:56 PM »
The PDF is 28 pages.

Thanks Josh.  It wasn't showing up on my phone, but it did on my desktop.

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Re: Blocking Scheme for new formation
« Reply #11 on: March 07, 2019, 06:02:26 PM »
Thats a good looking playbook . Its clear you want to be a jet offense there fore theres a 100 ways you can go with this.  A simple reach scheme with blast iso underneath and build around those two blocking schemes. You can get quite a few guys involved including qb in run game.
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Re: Blocking Scheme for new formation
« Reply #12 on: March 08, 2019, 11:45:58 AM »
Looking at the setup, in each of the more spread formations you have "jet" in 1 direction, "fly" in the other.  That allows you to set up the defense by running one of them as a counter to the other, & you could block one as a reach scheme, the other as an away/down scheme.  DL try to fight one, become vulnerable to the other.  LBs seeing the blockers' initial step are frozen, not knowing which way the play's going.  So they either have to find another key (good luck unless you leave a tell), have a fixed assignment (which you can exploit, or get 1-on-1 opp'ties), or guess (good luck).

What I'm saying is, your blocking scheme can be part of the misdirection.

Also consider installing a shovel pass as a kind of inside screen counter to your outside runs.  The back side of the line releases to 2nd level just as they would for jet or fly, the passer draws the rushers deep, & the receiver runs behind them.

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Re: Blocking Scheme for new formation
« Reply #13 on: March 14, 2019, 11:30:25 AM »
This new formation looks a lot like some of our gun formations using the wingT Jet series.

We have a tag call for inside runs for blocking schemes and we have reach tags for our blocking on sweeps and hitches

When I heard new formation I thought someone reinvented the wheel,........ route LOL see what I did there?  :D


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Re: Blocking Scheme for new formation
« Reply #14 on: March 23, 2019, 04:11:43 PM »
Thank you everyone for the responses. I've been swamped at work and now just able to get back on here. I will do my best to reply to everyone but I definitely see some things I can use and learn for this season.