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Re: ALEX GIBBS ZONE BLOCKING
« Reply #90 on: December 30, 2013, 10:12:19 PM »

See Alex Gibbs OZ cutups:
Outside Zone Cut-Ups terrell davis alex gibbs

Folks:

This video says it all about OZ.  Were there some misses? yup!  But note what Coach Gibbs said.  READ Said X we do ex and "We live with it!!"  Do you see where the inside cut might have been better?  See aforementioned.

Zone Blocking is DYNAMIC!!  A lot of these Cut Ups were Big on Big blocks.  Unless, as Coach Gibbs said, you dictate a block then work On, Playside, Over (to put it in Rule Blocking vernacular).   Note where Gibbs said "I ripped the Backs Nuts."  Why?  Because he made the line look stupid!! 

Note where Gibbs says "The cut occurred 4 yards outside the hash mark"...Important because the DYNAMICS of the play opened the seam there.

Also note where the play went outside all the way,  That's where the one cut and done is of the utmost importance.  Dont allow your RB's to string the play to the sideline.  Read the Read, right or wrong, and get up field!!!  NEVER allow the Sideline to make the tackle!! 

I noted at least once where Gibbs was going to read the Guards Ass for allowing the defender to push him onto the backfield and the Guard had the angle. Those are the things we look for as an OL coach in Zone.

Did the player on the LOS?  Did he allow penetration?  Did the get up field to the second level and seal? 

Note he chastised a few for CRAPPY Cut Blocks.  As I have said numerous times and Gibb's agrees, being able to execute a Good Cut block requires moving your feet to get ahead of the defender and into his play side thigh!!  NOT diving at the back of their legs or balling up at their feet.  Too easy to injure someone.

Hence you now understand my disdain for the cut block at the Youth Level. Folks dont teach it right and even the Pro's have issues executing them properly. 

Throw a rock at me guys but, if you kid can move fast enough at the Youth Level to Cut, He can Scoop the guy in the PS Gap or over him.  Let the HS and College Coaches get them Cutting.  If the kid cant move fast enough you have to rethink your choice of Linemen!!  Its that damned simple! 

Good Stuff thanks Bill!!   

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Re: ALEX GIBBS ZONE BLOCKING
« Reply #91 on: January 04, 2014, 02:21:10 PM »
When adjacent blockers are able to get a "fit" on the DLM, the ATTACHED shows what it looks like:
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Re: ALEX GIBBS ZONE BLOCKING
« Reply #92 on: January 14, 2014, 11:10:37 AM »
Alex Gibbs teaches a "REACH" block on the play-side of the OZ.  Many people mistakenly believe that means to HOOK the defender to the inside.  The PURPOSE of the "REACH" block is to STRETCH the defender, thus giving the RB a "clean read".  The key coaching points are ATTACHED, but BASICALLY you try to keep the face in the outside arm pit (with hands INSIDE the defender's hands) & just take him where he WANTS to go (PREFERABLY vertically OR laterally).

This applies all the way from a Center reaching a Nose, to a TE reaching a 9 TECH DE.  SEE ATTACHMENT:
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Re: ALEX GIBBS ZONE BLOCKING
« Reply #93 on: January 14, 2014, 09:09:20 PM »
Excellent articles on INSIDE ZONE & OUTSIDE ZONES (ATTACHED):
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Re: ALEX GIBBS ZONE BLOCKING
« Reply #94 on: January 18, 2014, 12:52:31 PM »
As we all know - Florida St won the National Championship.  Their Line Coach - Rick Trickett has a great book on their Run & Pass Blocking, & Game Strategy.

The following is quoted verbatim from that book = INTRODUCTION page XI:  "I spoke with Alex Gibbs of the Denver Broncos.  I had been following his coaching style, and his full-zone blocking schemes.  Coach Gibbs gave me valuable information that I continue to use.   When you are going to take something from someone else and use it, I don't believe in putting your own mark on it right away.  In other words, we did exactly what the Denver Broncos were doing, and we were successful".

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I would like to ADD to what Rick Trickett says by mentioning the following:  I feel there is danger in looking for TOO MANY ways to zone block (too much "conflicting info").  Pick ONE way & stick to it!  We have (since 1981) STUCK with the Joe Bugel/Alex Gibbs method (which is identical).  Coaches Bugel & A. Gibbs overlapped at Ohio St (1974-1975) and Alex Gibbs considered Jor Bugel a mentor.  Joe Bugel majored in the Inside Zone, where Alex Gibbs refined the Outside Zone.  It is THEIR METHOD that I used 100%!
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Re: ALEX GIBBS ZONE BLOCKING
« Reply #95 on: January 18, 2014, 01:57:40 PM »
As we all know - Florida St won the National Championship.  Their Line Coach - Rick Trickett has a great book on their Run & Pass Blocking, & Game Strategy.

The following is quoted verbatim from that book = INTRODUCTION page XI:  "I spoke with Alex Gibbs of the Denver Broncos.  I had been following his coaching style, and his full-zone blocking schemes.  Coach Gibbs gave me valuable information that I continue to use.   When you are going to take something from someone else and use it, I don't believe in putting your own mark on it right away.  In other words, we did exactly what the Denver Broncos were doing, and we were successful".

****************************************************************************************

I would like to ADD to what Rick Trickett says by mentioning the following:  I feel there is danger in looking for TOO MANY ways to zone block (too much "conflicting info").  Pick ONE way & stick to it!  We have (since 1981) STUCK with the Joe Bugel/Alex Gibbs method (which is identical).  Coaches Bugel & A. Gibbs overlapped at Ohio St (1974-=1975) and Alex Gibbs considered Jor Bugel a mentor.  Joe Bugel majored in the Inside Zone, where Alex Gibbs refined the Outside Zone.  It is THEIR METHOD that I used 100%!

I've been reading through that book this past week; I'm very impressed at how he presents the information. As an author, he presents A LOT of information in an easily digested format. The photos and diagrams that acompany the information are super helpful. Thanks for recommending this book to me, coach.

Also, I would agree with you on teaching zone blocking one way and sticking to it. Through my own personal trial and error, I've found the counting method to be the best FOR ME. Going forward, I don't think I'll ever teach it another way. As an added bunus, the counting method was a very easy carry over to our BOB pass pro. Unless we were running a gap scheme, our kids were always counting out the defense. That continuity and simplicity appealed to me greatly.
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Re: ALEX GIBBS ZONE BLOCKING
« Reply #96 on: January 18, 2014, 04:08:43 PM »
I talked to Coach Mountjoy yesterday and we will be following the Trickett book to the letter.  In fact I am going to get the digital copy also because it has video clips in it and use my ipad to show things in practice at times.  We start spring at the end of feb till the end of May.  Right now we are going to rep the crap out of IZ/OZ.  Depending on how we do we'll start repping power and counter.  I've run power and counter before so I feel I can wait till we come back during the summer to add that if I don't feel like we are progressing well enough with IZ/OZ

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Re: ALEX GIBBS ZONE BLOCKING
« Reply #97 on: January 18, 2014, 04:57:59 PM »
I talked to Coach Mountjoy yesterday and we will be following the Trickett book to the letter.  In fact I am going to get the digital copy also because it has video clips in it and use my ipad to show things in practice at times.  We start spring at the end of feb till the end of May.  Right now we are going to rep the crap out of IZ/OZ.  Depending on how we do we'll start repping power and counter.  I've run power and counter before so I feel I can wait till we come back during the summer to add that if I don't feel like we are progressing well enough with IZ/OZ


In OUR formations if you can only get to ONE (Counter or Power) = make it the COUNTER because it can be run BOTH ways without MOTION. 
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Re: ALEX GIBBS ZONE BLOCKING
« Reply #98 on: January 18, 2014, 05:13:19 PM »
I remember that bit of information well.  I also like the idea of boot off of counter better than other actions and like you said Counter it the Counter to IZ.  I'm excited about this spring and new season.  I'm hoping to be able to put up film of some of our drills and such to get feedback

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Re: ALEX GIBBS ZONE BLOCKING
« Reply #99 on: January 18, 2014, 05:19:52 PM »
In fact I am going to get the digital copy also because it has video clips in it and use my ipad to show things in practice at times.
I purchased the ebook for the Nook through B&N. It does not appear that there are any video links. Links just seem go to the pictures in the book. Maybe it's different with the Kindle edition.

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Re: ALEX GIBBS ZONE BLOCKING
« Reply #100 on: January 20, 2014, 11:08:58 AM »
In yesterday's playoff wins, BOTH the Broncos (with A Gibbs on staff as "adviser"), & the Seahawks (with A Gibbs DISCIPLE Pat Ruel coaching O-Line) FEATURED the INSIDE ZONE!
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Re: ALEX GIBBS ZONE BLOCKING
« Reply #101 on: January 22, 2014, 10:20:37 AM »
Important thinking in the Inside & Outside Zone series (ATTACHED):
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Re: ALEX GIBBS ZONE BLOCKING
« Reply #102 on: January 26, 2014, 09:49:52 PM »
Alex Gibbs returns to the Broncos as a consultant
Posted by Josh Alper on May 12, 2013


The Broncos are looking to their past for some help with their offensive future.

Alex Gibbs was the offensive line coach who was in Denver when the Broncos won two Super Bowls with John Elway a one-cut, zone-blocking scheme in the running game and he has returned as a consultant to the team that Elway now runs. Gibbs, who coached the Denver blockers from 1995-2003, is expected to work with offensive line coach Dave Magazu throughout the offseason and help out in the regular season as well.

“He’ll be a good resource,” Broncos coach John Fox said, via Mike Klis of the Denver Post. “I know from competing against (Gibbs) over the years that he can help us out.”

In addition to Gibbs, who coached in Atlanta, Houston and Seattle after leaving Denver, the Broncos also brought in zone-blocking proponent Greg Knapp as quarterbacks coach this offseason so you’d expect to see a bit more of it in the team’s offensive attack this season. How much is unclear, as is whether or not the Broncos offensive linemen will reinstitute Gibbs’ policy of players from the unit not speaking to the media.
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Re: ALEX GIBBS ZONE BLOCKING
« Reply #103 on: January 22, 2018, 08:54:52 AM »
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Published Wednesday, Dec 7, 2005 at 2:32 pm EST
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It is the winter after his first season as Broncos coach and Mike Shanahan is troubled. His running game is not as dominant as he would like, with too many negative plays. And he's concerned that the finesse aspects of his West Coast offense are not projecting the image he desires for his team. So he and Alex Gibbs, his offensive line coach and friend, devise something uniquely their own -- a curiously different run approach that calls for zone blocking built on a foundation of toughness and physicality.

Ten years later, the brilliance of their creation is at its peak. The running scheme born from their talented minds drives the NFL's two top rushing teams. The Broncos and Falcons are grinding toward franchise-record running seasons, their playoff desires grounded firmly in the intricacies of the league's most devilish and intriguing method of line blocking.

For the Falcons, their success on the ground follows a 2004 season in which Gibbs, in his first and only year as their full-time line coach, transformed Atlanta's running game from mediocre to No. 1 in the league. It's a status the team has maintained this season with a 177.8 yards-per-game average that projects as the NFL's highest in 35 years. For the Broncos, their running prowess offers them a potential ball control solution to overcoming the Colts in January.

The effectiveness of this rushing scheme is fascinating, considering all the analysis it has endured by the best defensive minds the league could offer. These clubs have the NFL's two smallest lines -- both average less than 300 pounds -- and neither has a player atop the rushing standings. Yet Atlanta has gained 200 or more yards in five games, and Denver's 162.7-yard average projects to the highest of the 11-year Shanahan era, during which the Broncos have the most running yards of any NFL franchise.

This season, the two teams also are 1-2 in two important and revealing categories: yards per carry (each averages more than 5.0) and lowest percentage of attempts resulting in lost yards.

Let's embark on an exploration to uncover the secrets behind this Bronco Scheme, an approach that doesn't pull guards and tackles, doesn't employ the counter trey and doesn't feature many traps or draws yet is so amazingly successful.

The first time Falcons running back Warrick Dunn tries to be creative by making a couple of moves before cutting into a hole, he hears the voice of Gibbs. "One cut downhill ... one cut downhill," Gibbs screams. It was Dunn's introduction last season to the demanding details of the Bronco Scheme. "There is just one way to do everything they ask," he says. "Or you don't play."

Denver and Atlanta don't have many running plays. The Broncos, for example, might bring no more than 12 into a game. But the success of the scheme is not tied to quantity; it excels because of the ability of the offense to execute with precision the exacting requirements of each of these few plays. Behind all of it has been the bellowing of Gibbs, first in Denver and now in Atlanta, where he serves this season as a consultant who spends a few days each week with the team. This 5-7 bundle of passion, vulgarity and brilliance -- his players joke he is Napoleon on speed -- mixes demeaning authoritarianism and an incredible grasp of the concepts into success. An eccentric football genius with a doctorate in education, he crashed and burned in Denver in 2000, finally needing psychiatric help and medication.

Yet Gibbs became Jim Mora's most important hire as a rookie head coach in 2004. No NFL rushing method could make better use of Michael Vick's talents, considering how the Bronco Scheme, with its focus on inside runs, functions best with the bona fide outside threat of quarterback bootlegs.

"To make their system complete, you need to fear the quarterback running that boot to your weak side," Bucs linebackers coach Joe Barry says. "With Atlanta, you have a freaking rocket ship coming out of there at quarterback. The whole scheme is a bitch to defend. Both teams don't do a lot. So no matter what the defense does, they are able to practice against it because they aren't bogging down their players with too many runs." It's what Redskins defensive line coach Greg Blache calls the "Colonel Sanders" philosophy: "They do one thing well; they do chicken right." But having Vick gives the Falcons the edge over Denver in rushing. He has 470 yards this season after gaining 902 yards -- the third most by a quarterback in NFL history -- in 2004.

Yet the Bronco Scheme doesn't need a Vick to excel. Shanahan has produced five different 1,000-yard rushers -- most of whom have been low-round draft choices -- including 1995 sixth-round pick Terrell Davis, who gained 2,008 yards in 1998. Ron Dayne, a flop with the Giants, set up the winning field goal against Dallas on Thanksgiving with a 55-yard overtime run. "He is a 1,000-yard rusher in our system as a starter," says Shanahan matter-of-factly. Oh, yes, Dayne is a third-string back. In Atlanta, Dunn, who rushed for 1,106 yards last season, already has accumulated 1,174 this fall, a career high for the ninth-year veteran.

So it's the system, not the backs, right? Not really. The Broncos never sign a jitterbug back whose instincts push him toward multiple fakes and ad-lib scrambles. Dunn had those tendencies pre-Gibbs; to function in the system, he has transformed himself. He now is a one-cut runner whose goal on every carry is to avoid negative yards. So if there is no hole, he plows ahead anyway. "We're taught to gain at least a blade of grass on every attempt," says Falcons fullback Fred McCrary. If you are indecisive and unwilling to be tough and run downhill, you won't run for these teams.

Still, it is what happens up front, among the athletic, quick and, for the NFL, small linemen that makes the Bronco Scheme different and so effective. To uncover why, we need to go to the videotape.

On the huge screen is a football choreography contrary to anything you'd anticipate about this most muscular of sports. In lock step, linemen move:

shoulders square, in perfect balance, sliding effortlessly down the scrimmage line, nearly 1,500 pounds of nimbleness -- a dance of intricacy and precision. These images, on this large screen within the headquarters of NFL Films, display the foundation of all that has been dominant about the Bronco Scheme. Before T.J. Duckett or Mike Anderson can gain a yard, their linemen must first become Baryshnikovs in shoulder pads, drilled to work in unison, geared to frustrate defenders unable to crack the formidable barrier presented by this picket fence in motion.

Several years ago, Denver's linemen had another term to describe their meticulousness.

Trained seals.

Here on the screen, the current Broncos linemen are working against the Redskins' defense. The usual NFL approach to run blocking is macho-oriented. You take on opponents man-to-man, firing straight into them alone or in tandem with a teammate, with the goal to knock them up the field, away from the line and apart from each other. The ultimate triumph of this mentality is the pancake block -- sending the defender onto his derriere. But the Bronco Scheme is based on zone blocking, in which you worry about protecting an area and the defenders who intrude into it. The movement is lateral, not straight ahead. The pivotal word here is stretch -- the linemen want to stretch the field and force the defense to run laterally with them. The more it stretches, the more creases open for the running back.

On virtually every stretch play, you will see multiple double-teams by the linemen -- what they call a "hat and one-half" on each down defender. The heads of the linemen are always up; they are constantly looking, moving. Once the double-teamed defender is under control, one of the Broncos' linemen will split away seamlessly and move to the next zone, the next opponent, lending help to another teammate. Or he will scurry to the next level to hunt down linebackers and safeties. On the backside, away from the direction of the running back, the linemen frequently use cut blocks -- blocks aimed at the thighs and rolled to the feet -- to knock down defenders and limit pursuit. It is a controversial block -- defensive players hate it because it attacks their legs -- but it is legal and has a purpose.

"You knock down a 330-pound nose tackle for three quarters and he is really tired in the fourth," says FOX and Sporting News analyst Brian Baldinger, a former NFL lineman and our videotape guide on this day. "So all of a sudden he is too fatigued to make the same tackle he made in the first half. And that

3-yard run becomes a 30-yarder." So the Bronco Scheme preaches patience. "It is a philosophy," says Mora. "You have to stay with the run and not abandon it. You have to have the mentality that the big plays will happen, that the big holes will be there." On third-and-5 or -6, when most teams pass, these two clubs just as often run, frequently from three-receiver sets. The Falcons average almost 35 carries a game, the Broncos 33. The rest of the league averages 27.

It is so maddening and methodical, this unrelenting stretch-the-field approach. "They block everything so it looks like an outside run, but it's not," says Dolphins middle linebacker Zach Thomas. "They're not trying to get to the edge; they are trying to run between the tackles. But they're moving the line sideways and waiting for you to commit. It's tough because everything you're taught to do on an outside run is to attack, and you have to fight your instincts." Because if a defender attacks, that's when he's nudged out of the way and the runner cuts into the resulting hole. Or, if the defense really overpursues, he cuts dramatically, in back of everyone. And that's when the scheme's emphasis on cutting down backside pursuit and sending linemen upfield to help receivers block linebackers and defensive backs leads to long gains.

"If we are running it well, you can hear defensive guys muttering to themselves in the fourth quarter," Falcons right guard Kynan Forney says. "They are tired, they don't want to tackle anymore. Basically, they lose life; you can feel it." To constantly move sideways and stay in front of defenders requires players with quickness and athleticism. Both franchises have found these linemen mostly in the lower rounds; five of the 10 starters were picked after the fourth round, and another, Denver left tackle Matt Lepsis, was an undrafted college tight end. But the Bronco Scheme allows someone such as Denver center Tom Nalen (6-3, 286) to become a dominant player, a potential Hall of Famer.

"They play with a great awareness," Baldinger says. "They don't block guys who have no chance of making a play. And they give a defense so much to think about: the stretch, the cutback, the bootleg, the reverse. It slows defenses down, makes them have to play perfect on every snap."

It also is why Shanahan was eager to bring in Jake Plummer to replace slow-footed Brian Griese at quarterback two years ago. With Griese, the bootleg part of the scheme disappeared; with Plummer, it has returned with a flourish.

"It takes smart people to play this system," former Broncos lineman David Diaz-Infante says. "The guys are so good at knowing who to block. If a defense gives you an eight-man front or stunts or blitzes, the guys know how their assignment changes, and they make the changes immediately as the play is evolving on the field. That's why they are so sound play after play."

But the linemen also function within a strange code of conduct formulated by Gibbs, who boycotts the media. In both Denver and Atlanta, usually only one lineman gives interviews. Otherwise, an internal kangaroo court fines linemen even for having their name mentioned in stories. "It's all part of what you learn as a young lineman," Broncos right tackle George Foster says. "There is a standard on and off the field, and you are expected to live up to it. Otherwise, you don't last." Even current line coaches Rick Dennison in Denver and Jeff Jagodzinski in Atlanta buy into the silence. Jagodzinski, in his first season as line coach, still is learning from Gibbs. But Dennison, who has a masters in civil engineering, has excelled since replacing Gibbs. "I don't think I have been with a coach as bright as he is," Shanahan says.

What also hasn't changed is the difficulty of neutralizing the Bronco Scheme. Familiarity helps. Division rival Tampa plays the Falcons twice a season and has found that its own quickness has created problems for Atlanta's offense. But for teams such as the Jaguars, who have played Denver the past two seasons, preparation for the scheme is more taxing. "What the scheme does," says Jaguars defensive coordinator Mike Smith, "is force you to be solid in gap integrity. They want to get two of their guys in the gap, and we can't let them do that or it opens up a run lane. They want to push you sideways, by the hole. So you have to be disciplined and have your color uniform in each gap. Then they give you all the window dressing with different formations and motion and all, and you have to cut through that, too."

If you have a defensive front such as Jacksonville's, which is strong and athletic enough to push upfield and cut into the lateral flow, suddenly the picket fence breaks. You don't want gap penetrators but rather gap maintainers who can shove the Bronco Scheme linemen backward. Still, so far this season, no team has held Atlanta under 115 yards rushing, and its average per game is 10.8 yards higher than last year's club record. Since two sub-100-yard rushing games to open the schedule, the Broncos have gained no fewer than 121 yards, and there is a chance Anderson and Tatum Bell might become the first backs under Shanahan to each gain 1,000 in the same season.

"You may not win championships because you run the ball well," says Shanahan, owner of two Super Bowl rings, "but it certainly gives you a better chance than if you can't."

Senior writer Paul Attner covers the NFL for Sporting News. E-mail him at attner@sportingnews.com.
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Re: ALEX GIBBS ZONE BLOCKING
« Reply #104 on: January 24, 2018, 11:24:17 AM »
Jeff Stoutland oline coach for the eagles and formally alabama and miami spoke recently and basically reaffirmed the count and one on one blocking scheme.

If you can find more from Stoutland youde be very happy you did.
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