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Re: Defending the UBSW Offense
« Reply #45 on: June 08, 2014, 08:38:40 PM »
Mike

I think you are looking at this the wrong way.

The incident with Mouse Davis was clearly someone not understanding what he was doing on a certain concept. It would be similar to serving a hot dog & calling it filet mignon. I don't think it bothered him that they changed it just that they called it his. How many teams ran Delaware Wing T in the 80's? How many ran a bastardized version of the offense? I don't think it's about if you are successful with it as much as what you call it & say you are doing.

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Re: Defending the UBSW Offense
« Reply #46 on: June 08, 2014, 08:46:08 PM »
There's a cheesesteak/hoagie place in Chicago called "Philly's Best" that doesn't have provolone.   At least they didn't ten years ago, which is when I stopped going because they didn't have provolone. 
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Re: Defending the UBSW Offense
« Reply #47 on: June 08, 2014, 09:18:05 PM »
How can it be Philly's best if it isn't in Philly?

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Re: Defending the UBSW Offense
« Reply #48 on: June 08, 2014, 09:21:35 PM »
How can it be Philly's best if it isn't in Philly?

This town has a lot of food issues.   The pizza is square-cut, if you can believe it
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Re: Defending the UBSW Offense
« Reply #49 on: June 08, 2014, 09:23:16 PM »
Mike

I think you are looking at this the wrong way.

The incident with Mouse Davis was clearly someone not understanding what he was doing on a certain concept. It would be similar to serving a hot dog & calling it filet mignon. I don't think it bothered him that they changed it just that they called it his. How many teams ran Delaware Wing T in the 80's? How many ran a bastardized version of the offense? I don't think it's about if you are successful with it as much as what you call it & say you are doing.

Joe

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Makes sense...but football is football and a hot dog is slaughterhouse scraps...we think.  :)

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Re: Defending the UBSW Offense
« Reply #50 on: June 08, 2014, 09:24:07 PM »
How can it be Philly's best if it isn't in Philly?

LOL !
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Re: Defending the UBSW Offense
« Reply #51 on: June 08, 2014, 09:25:19 PM »
This town has a lot of food issues.   The pizza is square-cut, if you can believe it

This coming from a man who will forever march to the beat of his own drum.  ::) ::) :P
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Re: Defending the UBSW Offense
« Reply #52 on: June 08, 2014, 10:06:28 PM »
A hot dog is a tube steak!
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Re: Defending the UBSW Offense
« Reply #53 on: June 08, 2014, 10:56:05 PM »
What is beautiful, lives forever.

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Re: Defending the UBSW Offense
« Reply #54 on: June 08, 2014, 11:16:15 PM »
A hot dog is a tube steak!
I might never eat a hot god again.

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Re: Defending the UBSW Offense
« Reply #55 on: June 08, 2014, 11:22:14 PM »
This town has a lot of food issues.   The pizza is square-cut, if you can believe it
I love Chicago. Great food city from what I remember. I haven't been in a few years. I went to a breakfast joint and had filet mignon eggs benedict then went to a great burger joint and had Delirium Tremens on tap. Pretty awesome day imo. I don't like the pizza up there being from Jersey and all. Square pizza just doesn't make sense. Sorta like hot ice cream(which is a real thing in case you are wondering).

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Re: Defending the UBSW Offense
« Reply #56 on: June 08, 2014, 11:23:26 PM »
I might never eat a hot god again.

Damn, that's funny.
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Re: Defending the UBSW Offense
« Reply #57 on: June 09, 2014, 07:06:17 AM »
I might never eat a hot god again.
Ooops, I juxtaposed the g and d.

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Re: Defending the UBSW Offense
« Reply #58 on: June 09, 2014, 07:13:26 AM »
Joe

Why do you think that upset him? Isn't that how football progresses over the long haul at the upper levels?

The team in that clip Dave seems to be upset over has lost 3 games in 3 years and ran the table in 2013. Is it impossible to think they could have actually improved on Dave's Burst Series? According to Dave they were not running his systems....yet they were certainly inspired by Dave's systems for sure.

Im not sure why improvement on an idea is so hard to fathom so some?  Ego? Massive cant get my own head thru the door anymore ego?



This is what you said "Actually that team in that film runs your O and your D and follows your philosophies right out of the Book. His words...not mine.


I was just correcting a mistake, something that is 100% incorrect. Is that so hard to get your hands around? To say they run my stuff right out of the box is 100% incorrect- their playbook based on these 11 plays is less than 1/2 mine. Or to say someone was calling out my plays- when 1/2 of them aren't in the playbook- saying that is incorrect is just being factual.

This coach didn't improve on my Burst series- it was no longer a key breaking series the way they ran it- it was just a silly play out of a formation we stopped using back in about 2010 and it didn't work IMO

I try and help coaches improve and run the most efficient plays and show guys how to get into those plays- these weren't them.

When they don't run a single- not one adjustment or run a very simple play like 14 trap, 14 power or level- which I beg them to do in clinics and the materials- which would have gashed what you were doing - but instead run 1/2 of what they do as things that aren't in the book, it's disappointing.

Anyone that read your posts and watched the clips would think I run that offense (no way I would run that) and that is my system- when 1/2 of it isn't my stuff I'm not supposed to say anything?  ::) got it

Thanks for posting it though, that's all good to finally know what exactly you played against.
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Re: Defending the UBSW Offense
« Reply #59 on: June 09, 2014, 08:05:39 AM »
A hot dog is a tube steak!
Tube steak in a can.....eeeewwwwwww
Will only eat chicken or turkey dogs now for the rest of my life
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