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Re: zone blocking in youth... diary of install for 10/11s
« Reply #30 on: August 13, 2014, 10:47:05 AM »
Ideally we want to get in slow oklahoma once a week and 2 board once a week
Once the season kicks off we will be doing a lot more ...more quickly
Yeah, we did 2 boards a few times and it was a winner.

The only slow thing about slow Oklahoma is the coach, so maybe the name introduces some confusion in coaches who have not done it. It is anything but slow for the kids ;)

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Re: zone blocking in youth... diary of install for 10/11s
« Reply #31 on: August 13, 2014, 11:04:05 AM »
Yeah, we did 2 boards a few times and it was a winner.

The only slow thing about slow Oklahoma is the coach, so maybe the name introduces some confusion in coaches who have not done it. It is anything but slow for the kids ;)

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Try it with half line vs half a box defense quite interesting.

Basically my 2v2 will end up being a slow oklahoma

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Re: zone blocking in youth... diary of install for 10/11s
« Reply #32 on: August 13, 2014, 11:48:03 AM »
So why did you switch from the coco spread to pro, Zach? And thanks for doing this, it is going to really help anyone runing this O or even just a line coach.

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Re: zone blocking in youth... diary of install for 10/11s
« Reply #33 on: August 13, 2014, 11:58:14 AM »
Try it with half line vs half a box defense quite interesting.
Basically my 2v2 will end up being a slow oklahoma
Hum... Very interesting.

Yesterday I was doing a 3v3 (3 OL, 2DL and a LB) with no RB, but yeah, I can see where this would be a great teaching tool.

Thanks, will try.

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Re: zone blocking in youth... diary of install for 10/11s
« Reply #34 on: August 15, 2014, 11:24:35 AM »
Yesterday last practice before scrimmage. Weds 8/13 was all defense due to a limited staff.

Yesterday we cleaned things up a little bit we had an off day...kinda zombie approach

5 min 2 v 2
10 min 3v3
* 2 reps defense no movement...2 reps- 2 steps movement...2 reps full speed
20 min big oklahoma 1v1
15 min 2 board drill

Thats it 10 min went to water breaks flippin hot yesterday

And thats pretty much the install the rest of the way is just progressing in the same drills we already do and getting expert.

Our fits in the under are below par so thats a focus for next week...our pass pro is lack luster.

From now on we will go 1 day as run focus...1 day as pass focus
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Re: zone blocking in youth... diary of install for 10/11s
« Reply #35 on: August 15, 2014, 11:27:50 AM »
Yesterday last practice before scrimmage. Weds 8/13 was all defense due to a limited staff.

Yesterday we cleaned things up a little bit we had an off day...kinda zombie approach

5 min 2 v 2
10 min 3v3
* 2 reps defense no movement...2 reps- 2 steps movement...2 reps full speed
20 min big oklahoma 1v1
15 min 2 board drill

Thats it 10 min went to water breaks flippin hot yesterday

And thats pretty much the install the rest of the way is just progressing in the same drills we already do and getting expert.

Our fits in the under are below par so thats a focus for next week...our pass pro is lack luster.

From now on we will go 1 day as run focus...1 day as pass focus

How was 2-Board?
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Re: zone blocking in youth... diary of install for 10/11s
« Reply #36 on: August 15, 2014, 12:21:26 PM »
How was 2-Board?

Went well... it got better...these kids lack a tremendous amount of core strength and they start twisting at points of struggle.
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Re: zone blocking in youth... diary of install for 10/11s
« Reply #37 on: August 17, 2014, 08:41:59 PM »
First scrimmage

Today we had a round robin inter league scrimmage 16min on offense 16 on def switch teams. We avg 30 plays a session on offense.

Good:

Recognised who we have to block
picked up stunts (by accident never went over it)
climbed well to second level

Bad:

We had two " oh no plays"  where 1st level defenders came clean through. This mistake I feel was brain farts or just lack of wanting contact. I have 3 very solid lineman my center n tackles. My right guard was a former mpp whos progressing. My left g is brand new. My guards were my biggest issue in terms on physicality. Yes I have o line problems like most and no matter how you coach them up 1 weeks in pads is not enough theyll be fine but we got a long way to go.

No calls... my bad here we were in our spread looks with 3 wr and H off the line due to both Y tight ends being on vaca n not telling me. So we practiced nnothing but unit / ace and 2 formations off that. This led to over loaded edges vs one Wt6 team and we couldnt account for it bc we never had our "over" call practiced just introduced.  Had A. If I knew we were gonna be in double open edges we wouldve added it. B. We wouldve gone over widening splits ala michael.

This week

We add covered splits 3-4  feet
we add over call which moves count over one guy and we man block
we drill more in slow oklahoma

It was a great day lots to work on yet.
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Re: zone blocking in youth... diary of install for 10/11s
« Reply #38 on: August 17, 2014, 09:17:05 PM »
What was your best run play in the scrimmage?

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Re: zone blocking in youth... diary of install for 10/11s
« Reply #39 on: August 18, 2014, 07:18:42 AM »
Wide zone was our most consistent bc of all the red fronts.  We had no negatives in wide zone but did in tight. Again we were in a 3 wr look with H off the line so edge rushers unable to be counted kinda fubard tight zone.

Other note my line doesnt know what number system we use to call plays. They only know handsignals.

They know
zone right
zone left
pass

Coach had a huddle and called a played to kick off thr scrimmage and the line asked whats that mean I chuckled.
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Re: zone blocking in youth... diary of install for 10/11s
« Reply #40 on: August 18, 2014, 08:50:14 AM »
Wide zone was our most consistent bc of all the red fronts.  We had no negatives in wide zone but did in tight. Again we were in a 3 wr look with H off the line so edge rushers unable to be counted kinda fubard tight zone.

Other note my line doesnt know what number system we use to call plays. They only know handsignals.

They know
zone right
zone left
pass

Coach had a huddle and called a played to kick off thr scrimmage and the line asked whats that mean I chuckled.
How do they differentiate between tight and wide zone?

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Re: zone blocking in youth... diary of install for 10/11s
« Reply #41 on: August 18, 2014, 12:15:15 PM »
The offensive line doesnt...the rbs do.

We are adjusting our tight zone to look more "read esque" hoping for a response in the pass game.

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Re: zone blocking in youth... diary of install for 10/11s
« Reply #42 on: August 18, 2014, 02:05:54 PM »
The offensive line doesnt...the rbs do.

We are adjusting our tight zone to look more "read esque" hoping for a response in the pass game.
So on wide zone you are not trying to stretch the Defense?

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Re: zone blocking in youth... diary of install for 10/11s
« Reply #43 on: August 18, 2014, 03:34:22 PM »
So on wide zone you are not trying to stretch the Defense?

We do ... however its not as drastic as gibbs unless I make a call.

I cannot get accross the concept with out the call

Same with tight we dont double team like you all think of it we chip and climb.

I have a call to create doubles but we dont get off those doubles at all

This is my experiance with this system and help from Bill and Rich
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Re: zone blocking in youth... diary of install for 10/11s
« Reply #44 on: August 19, 2014, 05:07:25 PM »
Z -

I know you say you can't get your guys to look at the LB's on Combo's and come off but I have one guard who already does it. He is an exceptional player so maybe that is it. He is the only one so far....but lets hope we can train up the others to do the same thing. Otherwise we may be switching him to playside a ton.... ???
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