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Re: zone blocking in youth... diary of install for 10/11s
« Reply #90 on: September 02, 2014, 12:32:44 PM »
I have coaches a plenty... maybe ill add you as a player
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Re: zone blocking in youth... diary of install for 10/11s
« Reply #91 on: September 02, 2014, 04:04:27 PM »
I have coaches a plenty... maybe ill add you as a player

Would love to see, pretty please.
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Re: zone blocking in youth... diary of install for 10/11s
« Reply #92 on: September 02, 2014, 04:17:50 PM »
Once I get home im gonna download the offensive play list to google drive n share
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Re: zone blocking in youth... diary of install for 10/11s
« Reply #93 on: September 02, 2014, 09:12:05 PM »
I am interested for sure.

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Re: zone blocking in youth... diary of install for 10/11s
« Reply #94 on: September 04, 2014, 10:08:45 AM »
Reg season game 1 was sat

Ran 20 series (wide zone) - 18 times . 2 negatives. Avg 4 yards - 1 20+ went for td
ran 10 series (tightzone)- 6 times no neagtives  avg 5 yards -  1 20+ went for a td
Ran truck - 6 times no negatives avg 8 yards
threw the ball 12 times completed 2 (very nauseating) our qbs either rush or take too much time. Playactions goes in this week. Our passing will improve exponentially this week.

If you ask nice ill send ya film  :P but only to folks I know

No Powers / Counters, coach?

Which pass concepts were you running?
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Re: zone blocking in youth... diary of install for 10/11s
« Reply #95 on: September 04, 2014, 10:37:53 AM »
No Powers / Counters, coach?

Which pass concepts were you running?

Nope we have enough to worry about getting these zones ran correctly.

We do have keeper off of wide (boot action)...off of tight it looks like midline follow

We faced two heavy favorites early and pass pro has been an issue improving. Our run game is comming around the film I sent out to folks will show pretty descent running... kinda iffy pass pro.

We will have counter in soon enough but not before we can sleep walk into zone scheme vs 2 basic fronts

We run mahonz up down and have 3 different protections
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Re: zone blocking in youth... diary of install for 10/11s
« Reply #96 on: September 04, 2014, 11:02:41 AM »
Zach, I think you may be onto something.  MHO, the oline needs to be lower, they are being out leveraged and beaten by the DL.  Otherwise the fundys are pretty good.  Its gonna be kinda tough if that's your feature back, because he lacks the extra "something", but if you can control the clock and get the pass game going, it looks promising.

How wide are the splits?
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Re: zone blocking in youth... diary of install for 10/11s
« Reply #97 on: September 04, 2014, 11:14:47 AM »
That was week 1 and we are getting better... we worked leverage all week. Stances we stress all day... somethings cant be reinforced enough.

Our splits are 2-2.5 ft or they should be
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Re: zone blocking in youth... diary of install for 10/11s
« Reply #98 on: September 04, 2014, 11:22:59 AM »
We ran 5 running backs that game too hahah

2 main ones got hurt... then we got into "holy shit" mode then scored twice

This week will be much better ... lookin forward to sharing the progression

For followers take home point "it doesnt matter what you know, it matters what your players know and can do".  We have been repping this scheme for 1 month we have 2 direction calls... 4 blocking calls

Zone is great bc once you invest youll never regret it
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Re: zone blocking in youth... diary of install for 10/11s
« Reply #99 on: September 04, 2014, 11:34:51 AM »
[quote author=ZACH link=topic=19896.msg284224#msg284224 date=1409844179

For followers take home point "it doesnt matter what you know, it matters what your players know and can do". 
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Absolutely
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Re: zone blocking in youth... diary of install for 10/11s
« Reply #100 on: September 04, 2014, 11:46:34 AM »

Zone is great bc once you invest youll never regret it

I agree. First year with zone and very happy w it. Takes a lot of work and course there's a lot I've learned (on grass) that I'd love to have known August 1. Next year I'll be much more efficient off the bat but I'm happy w where we're at.

Game 1 (non-league) we ran zone exclusively, 7.3 YPC with our top two backs. Had five negatives but all happened when we put our 3rd TB / backup QB in - three dropped snaps (pistol snaps were accurate - ball was wet and backup QB was nervous) we jumped on for loss & two sloppy QB / TB exchanges. Those kids just need more reps - backup QB started our scrimmage last weekend and did great. Point being, no negatives due to O-line breakdowns (including bad snaps).

We need to get better with our backside blocking (reverse tight drive & reach blocks) and I'd like more explosion from our punch (some great hand pop drill last night).

We begin league play next weekend - we have power / stretch series and counter in now but still going to major in Zone.

Very happy with our downfield blocking effort.
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Re: zone blocking in youth... diary of install for 10/11s
« Reply #101 on: September 04, 2014, 11:48:47 AM »
"it doesnt matter what you know, it matters what your players know and can do". 


I like Alex Gibbs' way of sayin it though - "all their (offensive coordinators') brilliance means not a F-ing thing bc I have to teach this to a bunch of motherF-ers who can barely read & write!"

For the record, not saying that about my players  :P - smart young men. Just love Gibbs' way of putting it, as usual.
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Re: zone blocking in youth... diary of install for 10/11s
« Reply #102 on: September 04, 2014, 12:44:45 PM »
Z - were they giving you a lot of Red looks? Assuming so since you were 2:1 wide vs tight.

We were 2:1 in the opposite direction bc we had double White all day.

Both averaged 4.7 YPC total but if we eliminate the 5 negs (all sloppiness from backup backs which we've fixed - none due to blocking breakdowns) we're at 6 YPC on Tight and 7 YPC on Stretch. We also had an 80 yard TD on Stretch called back bc our backup Left Tackle "forgot" we subbed him in  :-X which would've driven it up significantly.

But the negs count and a long run called back does not so 4.7 YPC is where we stand.  >:(  Fortunately we won the turnover battle 4-0 - the game was much closer than the 28-0 the scoreboard showed.
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Re: zone blocking in youth... diary of install for 10/11s
« Reply #103 on: September 04, 2014, 01:18:53 PM »
They were in a lot of red then started shifting the front so we threw some tight out there

Scored on a backdoor cutt so that was good
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Re: zone blocking in youth... diary of install for 10/11s
« Reply #104 on: September 04, 2014, 01:39:28 PM »
They were in a lot of red then started shifting the front so we threw some tight out there

Scored on a backdoor cutt so that was good

That's another thing we need to work on. When the B gap closes, our backs automatically want to bounce. Both are fast kids so it's instinctual and before this year have likely never been told not to.

But we see mainly 4-4 so usually the B is closing from inside out and the cutback is there for a big play.
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