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Re: My 2019 Fall Season GM1, GM2
« Reply #105 on: September 10, 2019, 01:29:08 PM »
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Re: My 2019 Fall Season GM1, GM2
« Reply #106 on: September 10, 2019, 01:38:34 PM »
We don't practice it, although after Friday, maybe we should. We spend zero time on it. It's all on me. It's something we've always done and something we'll always do and had NOTHING to do with the outcome of the game. Without it, we are just another football team and I go on to ride my motorcycle on weekends instead of coaching.

My brother in law is well meaning, but he had 2 jobs. 1) Hold the banner 2) Shut the F**k up. He screwed the pooch on #2. Most of us, when invited to take part in something we've never done before, sit quietly, watch and learn. I had the team breathing fire. I turned around to see if it was time. Another coach gave me the "bring them out" signal. As I turned around to do my thing, my brother in law yelled, "GO!!". I heard a whoosh of movement and when I turned to the spot where I once had 23 players, I saw empty grass. My wife said I sound like a pouty little girl, "I'M THE ONE WHO TELLS THEM TO GO!". If you're not part of what we do, you won't understand. I will not try and convince you. It's important to me, Mahonz, at least one other coach and 23 players, so I just ask that you respect that.

As far as forgetting how to coach? No. Just took a lot of things for granted. It's clear that many of our players don't care. We went through this last year. For half the season, we had a bunch of kids at recess. It took awhile for our method to take hold. This year, 11 out of 23 players are new to us. They are new to our particular brand of "crazy". Some of our returners have regressed to "recess mode". What makes it difficult is that many of them practice well. It's not until game day that I realize that they don't care. Then, a few days later, I see this apathy on film and realize how deep it goes.

This was the point of my earlier post.  It's not forgetting how to coach.  But temporarily forgetting where you came from and what it took to get where you were.  Been there. It's tough to go back to the blank slate players when you've been dealing with players who were more or less "full slates" compared to their competition.

Don't care about where to line up. Some can tell me where they're supposed to line up. Some can't. The ones that can decide to line up somewhere else. When asked why they line up, when asked why ANYTHING, they say, "I don't know". I even told them last week, that I no longer understand, "I don't know", but what I'm really hearing is "I don't care". Seemed to work. Had a GREAT week of practice.  So I don't know what makes me angrier. The kid who knows where he's supposed to line up, but has other ideas or the kid who has no idea despite being told a dozen times, being shown a dozen times and being physically moved a dozen times.

Don't care about their job. Some can tell me their job. Some can't. Same as the "where to line up" issue. The ball is snapped and a play starts that they have seen 20 times in scout and that they play to perfection 17 times. On game day, they do "whatever". I think part of it are parents who scream nothing but "get the ball". I really think that for some of them, the parents are getting through to them. But "Timmy, you get aggressive and get that ball" is bad advice to a back side cornerback. For the ones who can't tell me their job? I don't know. Maybe they know their job and just don't know how to talk to adults.

Some of the coaches who have kids on the team are telling us that "team comes first" is too complex a concept for many of them. They want to do what they want to do, right now. We have a blocking back that had a pretty good first half and a shitty 2nd half. It turns out that he was sulking because I took him off defense. It's not that he did anything wrong, but I had another kid who wasn't playing offense and I thought he was just as good. Wrong.

That brings me to me. I replaced the on-field coach because he couldn't handle the chaos. On my first play on the field, I had 2 OLBs on the same side of the field. I didn't catch that and they scored. So apparently, I am no better at handling the chaos. I asked the kid, "when do we ever have 2 OLBs on the same side of the field?" He replied, "never". So I asked him, "Why did you change sides?". "I don't know".

Back to me, or the coaches in general. The kid I subbed, who I thought was doing well. On film, he literally stood there while everyone else ran around him. It was like something you'd see in a movie where the director is trying to demonstrate the isolation that one character is feeling as he stands completely still as everyone else flows around him in fast motion. I didn't catch that either until I watched film. More importantly, his position coach didn't catch it either, or maybe he did and didn't think to mention it.

On the other TD we gave up, I had a kid in who I decided was done on defense, but gave him a second chance. He was the force defender and went too far up field on a reverse. Mahonz told me that the score was all on this kid. I was upset and made it about me and yelled at the kid. Really broke his little heart. Went back to film and on that side, he was the ONLY perimeter defender within 10 yards of doing his job. The OLB and Corner read "sweep away" and were on the far side of the C when the reverse exchange was made. So I owe that kid a huge apology and need to deal with the 2 kids who screwed up. Actually, just 1. The OLB doesn't have any BCR responsibility. As for the CB, it really doesn't f**king matter. He has watched zero seconds of HUDL to date and his dad is a seasoned coach.

A third grader that didn't watch any HUDL film?  I might be in the minority, but who cares?

To be honest, the only thing that kept me from walking away Friday night was not wanting to let Mahonz or the other coaches, or especially the kids down. I was simply not having fun. I did some yoga, rode my motorcycle and scouted our next opponent and started to feel a little better. I called Mahonz and he gave me the new plan. Last Spring was the first time anyone gave me Carte Blanche over one side of the ball and it went as well as anything can go. I had the same freedom this Fall, but with the pressure of "the first half of the season depends on the defense" hanging over my head. Giving up 80 to a team that should probably score 30 on you is tough, but not nearly as bad as giving up 2 scores and a PAT to a team who shouldn't get out of the backfield.

Kind of reminds me of how Coach John K. was starting to feel towards the end of his youth coaching a couple years ago on here.  Might need to step back, take a deep breath and remember that these are little kids.

So now, we're following Mahonz' plan and I feel much better about it. It's not that I think his scheme is any better than mine, but it's just better if we're on the same page. It's much easier for me to follow his plan than for him to follow mine if that makes sense. It's certainly easier on me. I'm looking forward to getting back to practice. Tonight is an offense night and we're installing the 3rd grade version of Ted Seay's wild bunch. I looked at it for 45 seconds and saw that it makes sense. We simply cannot continue to shotgun snap. We'd have better luck finding a player on our team who can kick field goals than a decent snapper.

Wednesday is defense night and I'm prepared to burn an entire practice convincing them to care about where they line up. I have a plan and it is robotic. No emotion and unflinching. I have 3 kids who showed me that they do not care one shred about defense. They will not play until they convince me that they do. This means they will watch every one of their Hudl plays and tell me what they did wrong in each play. It will then be up to them to convince me that they care enough to fix it.

Thanks for letting me get this off my chest. It's been a rough few weeks. I wonder if it's normal to be bothered this much by 3rd grade football.

Don't forget, a year or two ago you guys were "complaining" about being complained about because you won by too much. Or something like that.  I don't remember exactly, but I do recall the shoe was on the other foot for quite some time.  It's cyclical.  You kick some butt for a while and eventually you wind up on the other end for a little bit.  Doesn't life go that way too?  Ebbs and flows.  It's never as bad as you think and it's never as good as you think. 

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Re: My 2019 Fall Season GM1, GM2
« Reply #107 on: September 10, 2019, 01:42:47 PM »
Its (The Alignment issue) not limited to 3rd grade TRUST ME ON THAT!

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Re: My 2019 Fall Season GM1, GM2
« Reply #108 on: September 10, 2019, 03:23:20 PM »
Gumby,

I hear you on the banner/rah rah stuff. I think having an identity is great. That said I don’t see value in doing things just cuz that’s what you always do. To me, all that stuff should be earned. W/o them earning the stuff that comes w/ being an Outlaw, then it really holds no meaning.

When we used to do our winged helmets (haven’t last 2 years cuz of administrative issues), the boys had to earn them. We taught them about the meaning of the winged helmets, and they earned their stripes during practice.

Whether you practice it or not, it is something that takes focus off the task at hand. If even just for a few minutes. I’d bet half your team is thinking about how they’re gonna be 1st through the banner during warmups. lol

And yes, imo, anything done on game day should be practiced. If we were gonna run through banners, we be the best at it.
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Re: My 2019 Fall Season GM1, GM2
« Reply #109 on: September 10, 2019, 05:04:08 PM »
Gumby,

I hear you on the banner/rah rah stuff. I think having an identity is great. That said I don’t see value in doing things just cuz that’s what you always do. To me, all that stuff should be earned. W/o them earning the stuff that comes w/ being an Outlaw, then it really holds no meaning.

When we used to do our winged helmets (haven’t last 2 years cuz of administrative issues), the boys had to earn them. We taught them about the meaning of the winged helmets, and they earned their stripes during practice.

Whether you practice it or not, it is something that takes focus off the task at hand. If even just for a few minutes. I’d bet half your team is thinking about how they’re gonna be 1st through the banner during warmups. lol

And yes, imo, anything done on game day should be practiced. If we were gonna run through banners, we be the best at it.


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Re: My 2019 Fall Season GM1, GM2
« Reply #110 on: September 10, 2019, 05:11:48 PM »


Thanks for letting me get this off my chest. It's been a rough few weeks. I wonder if it's normal to be bothered this much by 3rd grade football.

Age group is irrelevant. It all about the return. Like we talked about....work your ass off and you should get a nice return. We must be working our asses off all wrong because the returns stink.

We will be fine. Just have to shuffle some of our philosophies.

That loss woke us up. Lots of experience on this Staff.
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Re: My 2019 Fall Season GM1, GM2
« Reply #111 on: September 10, 2019, 05:12:44 PM »

https://youtu.be/d5-akk0HNu4

Omg the coaches reaction is amazing. lol. Perfect example of the kids putting all their thought into running through the banner 1st.
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Re: My 2019 Fall Season GM1, GM2
« Reply #112 on: September 10, 2019, 05:50:49 PM »
Gumby,

I hear you on the banner/rah rah stuff. I think having an identity is great. That said I don’t see value in doing things just cuz that’s what you always do. To me, all that stuff should be earned. W/o them earning the stuff that comes w/ being an Outlaw, then it really holds no meaning.



Very true but traditions must be maintained. ( learned )

We recruited a future stud this off season. 3 boys in the family. Dad played D1 College. Mom was never going to let them play but gave in.

Oldest is a giant 8th grader. He is on a very successful no nonsense team.  I helped hook the two up. Kid was very confident. Told him it would be a 6 week struggle for him....minimum. Its been 6 weeks. He is struggling.

We got the middle son on our team. He is a pussy by WAY talented and coming around fast. In the 4th Q last week he was in tears wanting to talk to dad. He was convinced both knee caps were dislocated and that his back was bleeding. I took him for a  little walk to calm him down.

My pre pre season conversation with his mom told me....this family MIGHT be a problem.

Her youngest is slated to start next year IF things go well for the older sons this year. We are a teasing ground so to speak.

I got the nicest text from her on Saturday. She loves all the pageantry and traditions and the special little items we do during the week.  Wishes her oldest could experience some of that rather than straight up all business all the time serious from the first minute of practice to the last snap of the game. 

Some think its silly. But I run into enough former players that always tell me the same thing....they really miss the atmosphere I created for them and I know without asking it has absolutely ZERO to do with blocking and tacking.

One of them even mentioned Carnival. That did surprise me a little bit. Carnival is a rare occurrence.

We always wear our war paint for games. And it has a specific  meaning for each team. One time about a dozen years ago I left my bag in my truck and is was sub freezing over night. My eye-black froze to the point is was unusable. I always apply the war paint as they arrive.  We had a 9am KO. They made me go to Walgreen's at 7:30am and by black lipstick.

Captains for Life takes away from our practice time.  I will never change that. As they get older it becomes the most important thing they do all week.

Promise Keepers takes away from our practice time. I will never change that. As they get older it becomes the second most important thing they do all week.

Our agility routine is very specific and in many eyes probably useless for Smurfs. I will waste 2 hours extra of pre season practice time to teach it too the Smurfs because it has serious purpose as they get older. Eventually they will run it themselves.

...and so on. 

Our Banners change weekly. Its always about something that is pertinent for that week. Some of my best football friends that have come form other teams was due to our Banners.

There is more but for me that is what being a football team is all about. All the other stuff. Football is simply a platform.

It matters....to those that matter.  But they first have to experience it and why Lar was so flippin upset that we couldn't even manage a Banner Run properly.  He came to me immediately after because I was with the Coin  Flippers ( another unique thing we do differently ) and told me we were doomed because he screwed up the Banner Run.

He was right. We were awful. Something was off before we even kicked off. Not good and we both knew it.

A proper Banner Run is harder to pull off than it looks....for the Coach. 

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