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Outside Zone....Running the Defense Horizontal
« on: March 22, 2010, 03:31:09 PM »
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Re: Outside Zone....Running the Defense Horizontal
« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2010, 04:37:41 PM »
What do you have to help with a quick B gap LB in an under front vs OZ?

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Re: Outside Zone....Running the Defense Horizontal
« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2010, 05:09:45 PM »
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I went and checked my download and a few slides were not embedded :-[...so I updated that to include what to do if the linebackers....teaching the running backs. Sorry about that.

I dont fully understand the 'under front" term. In any case it is the hope that any linebacker whether he walks up, delays, hangs, scrapes, fills....get washed as the zone rotates.

If you explain how the 43 under, for example is different than the 43 base I can answer the best I can.

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Re: Outside Zone....Running the Defense Horizontal
« Reply #3 on: March 26, 2010, 11:25:04 PM »
Very nice explination of the outside zone, i already passed it on to my o-line coach....Thanks

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Re: Outside Zone....Running the Defense Horizontal
« Reply #4 on: March 27, 2010, 07:39:31 PM »
found a lil something...the guy kinda gets on my nerves bc he rambles a bit much...but he covers (no pun intended) the basics
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ST1koVGt50I[/youtube]
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Re: Outside Zone....Running the Defense Horizontal
« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2010, 04:26:14 PM »
This description of INSIDE & OUTSIDE ZONE "TECHNIQUES" is a COMBINATION of what I learned from Alex Gibbs & Joe Bugel (whose teaching was VERY SIMILAR).  They are widely regarded as two "PIONEERS" of Zone blocking (& most successful in their use of ZONES).  The WORDING, & the TEACHING, must remain THIS SIMPLE - and repped like hell:

INSIDE ZONE TECHNIQUE (DRIVE BLOCK TECHNIQUES):

A.   COVERED:  Take a 6” lead step aiming eyes at playside number.  Second step to crotch (do not crossover).  Hands at base of shoulder pads.

1.   If DLM stretches with you – stay on block and uncovered teammate works up on LBer.

2.   If DLM anchors on you – double team with uncovered teammate.  Stay on block until wiped off & then work upfield  aiming eyes to playside number of LBer.

3.   If DLM slants inside – force him to flatten his slant and double team with uncovered teammate.  Stay on block until wiped off & then work upfield aiming eyes to playside number of LBer.

B.   UNCOVERED:  Take a 6” lead step aiming eyes at helmet of DLM.  Do not cross over on second step.

1.   If helmet goes out on your 1st step  – 2nd step upfield aiming eyes to playside number of LBer.

2.   If helmet stays put – double team (hip to hip) with covered teammate & wipe him off on Lber.

3.   If helmet slants inside - get eyes to his playside number.  Double team with covered teammate & wipe him off on LBer.



OUTSIDE ZONE TECHNIQUE (REACH BLOCK TECHNIQUES):

A.    COVERED:  Take a 6” lead step aiming eyes at playside arm pit.  Second step slightly outside crotch (do not crossover).  Inside hand on midline & outside hand under armpit.

1.   If DLM stretches with you – stay on block and uncovered teammate works up on LBer.

2.   If DLM anchors on you – stiff arm him down to uncovered teammate.  Stay on block until you feel uncovered teammate & then come off aiming eyes to playside armpit of LBer.

3.   If DLM slants inside – force him to flatten his slant by stiff arming him inside.  Stay on block until you feel uncovered teammate & then come off aiming eyes to playside number of LBer.

B.   UNCOVERED:  Take a 6” lead step aiming eyes at helmet of DLM.  You may crossover on second step.

1.   If helmet goes out & you haven’t contacted DLM by 3rd. step – work upfield  aiming eyes to playside armpit of LBer.

2.   If helmet stays put – shove him over to covered teammate and work upfield aiming eyes to playside armpit of LBer.

3.   If helmet slants inside – aim eyes to his playside armpit.  Take him over & wipe covered teammate off to LBer.


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Re: Outside Zone....Running the Defense Horizontal
« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2010, 05:05:38 PM »
what reads do the FB and half back have to make in inside zone and outside zone... i played fb in situations in college but always on straight dive and off tackle plays nothing that really involved zone schemes
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Re: Outside Zone....Running the Defense Horizontal
« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2010, 05:20:34 PM »
You may want to liken RB's reads to running full speed thru a HEAVILY TREED forest (if you run head on into a damned tree - you don't belong at Running Back)! 

We run these from UNDER Center, & the RB's reads are more easily seen coming DOWNHILL from 6 1/2 - 7 yards deep (from the BALL) behind the QB, than coming ACROSS laterally from Gun:

OUTSIDE ZONE:  RB runs for crack of TE's butt.  His read =  first DLM from OUTSIDE-IN (NORMALLY the DE).   MUST have your read (up or out) by the THIRD STEP (& make ONE CUT)!  90% of the time he ends up INSIDE the DE!

INSIDE ZONE:  RB runs for outside leg of ON G.  His read is the first DLM beyond the Center (EXCLUDING a Shade/Nose) from INSIDE-OUT.  MUST have read (cram B gap or cut) by the time he reaches heel depth of ON G's ORIGINAL align (& take it straight ahead or make ONE CUT).

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Re: Outside Zone....Running the Defense Horizontal
« Reply #8 on: March 28, 2010, 06:03:30 PM »
different diagrams show different things when it comes to zone blocking, for instance a reach step as opposed to a "bucket" step not very familiar with this any one care to enlighten me a bit?
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Re: Outside Zone....Running the Defense Horizontal
« Reply #9 on: March 28, 2010, 06:21:42 PM »
The two BEST teachers of ZONE BLOCKING I know (Alex Gibbs & Joe Bugel) do NOT drop step, nor bucket step.  They take a 6 " LEAD" step at a given LANDMARK on the DLM (not losing any ground).  When you line up off the ball (helmet on Center's waist - or even deeper) & with 18" splits - you do not need to lose anymore ground.  You should be able to take a first 6" LEAD step & MAKE CONTACT on the second step.

PS:  If you look above to my post of today (4:26 PM) you will SEE I described the INITIAL STEPS as taught by both Alex Gibbs & Joe Bugel.
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Re: Outside Zone....Running the Defense Horizontal
« Reply #10 on: March 28, 2010, 06:30:40 PM »
makes a lot of sence, i see my area highschool team doing bird dog and taking a back step before going up field just never understood it... i see teams like the colts when they run outside zone theres a fold block happening playside sometimes backside to any benefit to that?
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Re: Outside Zone....Running the Defense Horizontal
« Reply #11 on: March 28, 2010, 06:34:11 PM »
i started researching alex gibbs and found this:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/8020617/alex-gibbs-zone-coaching-points
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Re: Outside Zone....Running the Defense Horizontal
« Reply #12 on: March 28, 2010, 06:40:53 PM »
READ THESE TWO ARTICLES (the 2nd is better than the 1st.) = ALEX GIBBS:

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The Godfather of zone blocking

Clare Farnsworth

Posted Jan 22, 2010

Alex Gibbs and his zone-blocking scheme have had success with seven other NFL teams. Now, he will try to work his magic as Pete Carroll’s line coach with the Seahawks

Alex Gibbs has been called the godfather, guru and even savant of the zone-blocking scheme.

 Pete Carroll, the Seahawks’ not-even-two-week-old head coach, just calls Gibbs the offensive line coach on the staff he continues to compile. But the 68-year-old Gibbs also is a key to the Seahawks running the ball better and more consistently than they have while ranking 26th, 19th and 20th in the league in average rushing yards per game the past three seasons.

“We have to run the football to be successful in our division first, and then in the NFL,” Carroll said last week at his introductory news conference. “You have to. So as we set our sights forward, you’ll follow how this will come together and how this will set our course.

“It will affect everything that follows. It’ll affect defense. It’ll affect our passing game. It’ll help our quarterback. It’ll give us the kind of mindset in the approach that we all love.”

Two of the first steps toward achieving those lofty goals were the hiring of Jeremy Bates to be the offensive coordinator, a position he held on Carroll’s staff at the University of Southern California last season after coaching wide receivers and quarterbacks on Mike Shanahan’s staff with the Denver Broncos the previous two seasons; and the addition of Gibbs, who had two stints with the Broncos (1984-87 and 1995-2003) during his 24-season run in the NFL.

“I love the familiarity we have on the offensive side of the ball to make Jeremy really ready to rock and roll and hit it full speed. And Alex is a big player in all of that,” Carroll said Wednesday in announcing those additions to his staff. “That gives us the running game emphasis that we want.”

And the Seahawks need after averaging 97.9 rushing yards per game last season – lowest in 10 years and fifth-lowest in franchise history – in their first fling at running the zone-blocking scheme.

Gibbs spent the past two seasons with the Houston Texans, who averaged a franchise-record 4.3 yards per carry in 2008.

“I can’t tell you how much I appreciate what Alex did for us,” Texans coach Gary Kubiak told the Houston Chronicle. “He helped a young coordinator (Kyle Shanahan) grow. He brought toughness to our team. And he helped some young coaches, too.

“He did a great job for us, and he’ll do a great job for them.”

While doing things the Gibbs’ way might be effective, it isn’t always easy – as the Seahawks’ offensive players, and especially the linemen, are about to discover.

“He’s very intense. He’s very frank. He doesn’t spare your feelings,” Texans left tackle Duane Brown told the team’s website. “It rubs some people the wrong way, but I think it’s the best way to get the job done.

“He tells you how it is, tells you how he feels, but he knows what he’s talking about. He’s been doing this for a long time with a lot of great people, and he knows his stuff, so you’ve got to listen to everything he says and try to apply it to everything – life or football.”

Gibbs has been doing this a long time, and he’s helped make some people great along the way. After coaching in college for 15 years – at Duke, Kentucky, West Virginia, Ohio State, Auburn and Georgia – Gibbs entered the NFL in 1984 with the Broncos. He also has had stints with the Oakland Raiders, San Diego Chargers, Indianapolis Colts, Kansas City Chiefs, Broncos again, Atlanta Falcons and Texans.

During this span, these Gibbs-influenced offenses have produced 1,000-yard rushers 14 times, including 12 in one 14-season stretch – from the Broncos’ Sammy Winder in 1984, to the Chargers’ Marion Butts in 1991, to a run of four consecutive by the Broncos’ Terrell Davis from 1995-98, to the Broncos’ Clinton Portis in 2002-03, to three consecutive seasons by the Falcons’ Warrick Dunn from 2004-06, to the Texans’ Steve Slaton in 2008.

Those are backs who run the gambit in style and size.

Gibbs had similar success with the linemen he coached. In one 11-season span – from 1993 with the Chiefs through 2003 with the Broncos – six linemen were voted to 11 Pro Bowls: Broncos center Tom Nalen (five), Broncos left tackle Gary Zimmerman (twice), Broncos tackle Tony Jones and Broncos guard Mark Schlereth, as well as the Chiefs’ duo of John Alt and Will Shields.

Zimmerman paid tribute to Gibbs during his Pro Football Hall of Fame induction speech last summer.

“He taught an old player like myself how to grab a few more years in the league by playing smart,” Zimmerman said. “Alex was hard on us, expecting perfection, and that made us better. He taught us to read coverages and understand how defenses work.

“It was a lot easier to play when you had a good idea what your opponent might do. He, too, gave some awesome motivation speeches, but it would not be appropriate to repeat them here.”

Then there are those tags Gibbs has collected along the way: Godfather, guru, savant.

As Schlereth once put it, “Alex Gibbs is one of the legendary O-line coaches in the NFL. He is one of the masters of cutting guys on the backside and getting defensive linemen down. Cutting is not an option, it is mandatory.”

So is copying the scheme that Gibbs has helped make infamous, it seems.

Former Stanford offensive line coach Chris Dalman admits “borrowing” it from Gibbs, and it produced the first 1,000-yard rusher in 17 years for the Cardinal in 2008, not to mention to the powerful exploits of Heisman runner-up Tony Gerhart last season.

When Rick Trickett got to West Virginia in 2001, he brought Gibbs’ philosophy and fundamentals with him.

“Some people say they copied a little from here, a little from there,” Trickett, now assistant head coach/offensive line coach at Florida State, once told the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette. “I just did every damn thing he did there (in Denver).”

Now, Gibbs inherits the job of teaching his zone-blocking scheme to a Seahawks offense that never totally grasped it last season – for whatever reason, and a number of reasons.

“I think Gibbs is the kind of guy that likes to build things,” Texans’ right tackle Eric Winston told ESPN.com. “I think he has built a young, solid offensive line here in Houston and has effectively taught his scheme to the coaches as well as the players and, for him, it was time to move on.

“I think he is a great coach and he will make a difference in Seattle, I’m sure.”

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Groundswell: the NFL's top defensive minds can't stop the rushing scheme that powers the Broncos and Falcons. Here's why it's so confoundingly successful
Sporting News, The, Dec 16, 2005 by Paul Attner

 
It is the winter after his first season as Broncos coach and Mike Shanahan is troubled. His running game is not as dominant as he would like, with too many negative plays. And he's concerned that the finesse aspects of his West Coast offense are not projecting the image he desires for his team. So he and Alex Gibbs, his offensive line coach and friend, devise something uniquely their own--a curiously different run approach that calls for zone blocking built on a foundation of toughness and physicality.

Ten years later, the brilliance of their creation is at its peak. The running scheme born from their talented minds drives the NFL's two top rushing teams. The Broncos and Falcons are grinding toward franchise-record running seasons, their playoff desires grounded firmly in the intricacies of the league's most devilish and intriguing method of line blocking.

For the Falcons, their success on the ground follows a 2004 season in which Gibbs, in his first and only year as their full-time line coach, transformed Atlanta's running game from mediocre to No. 1 in the league. It's a status the team has maintained this season with a 177.8 yards-per-game average that projects as the NFL's highest in 35 years. For the Broncos, their running prowess offers them a potential ball control solution to overcoming the Colts in January.

The effectiveness of this rushing scheme is fascinating, considering all the analysis it has endured by the best defensive minds the league could offer. These clubs have the NFL's two smallest lines--both average less than 300 pounds--and neither has a player atop the rushing standings. Yet Atlanta has gained 200 or more yards in five games, and Denver's 162.7-yard average projects to the highest of the 11-year Shanahan era, during which the Broncos have the most running yards of any NFL franchise.

This season, the two teams also are 1-2 in two important and revealing categories: yards per carry (each averages more than 5.0) and lowest percentage of attempts resulting in lost yards.

Let's embark on an exploration to uncover the secrets behind this Bronco Scheme, an approach that doesn't pull guards and tackles, doesn't employ the counter trey and doesn't feature many traps or draws yet is so amazingly successful

The first time Falcons running back Warrick Dunn tries to be creative by making a couple of moves before cutting into a hole, he hears the voice of Gibbs. "One cut downhill ... one cut downhill," Gibbs screams. It was Dunn's introduction last season to the demanding details of the Bronco Scheme. "There is just one way to do everything they ask," he says. "Or you don't play."

Denver and Atlanta don't have many running plays. The Broncos, for example, might bring no more than 12 into a game. But the success of the scheme is not tied to quantity; it excels because of the ability of the offense to execute with precision the exacting requirements of each of these few plays. Behind all of it has been the bellowing of Gibbs, first in Denver and now in Atlanta, where he serves this season as a consultant who spends a few days each week with the team. This 5-7 bundle of passion, vulgarity and brilliance--his players joke he is Napoleon on speed--mixes demeaning authoritarianism and an incredible grasp of the concepts into success. An eccentric football genius with a doctorate in education, he crashed and burned in Denver in 2000, finally needing psychiatric help and medication.

Yet Gibbs became Jim Mora's most important hire as a rookie head coach in 2004. No NFL rushing method could make better use of Michael Vick's talents, considering how the Bronco Scheme, with its focus on inside runs, functions best with the bona fide outside threat of quarterback bootlegs.

"To make their system complete, you need to fear the quarterback running that boot to your weak side," Bucs linebackers coach Joe Barry says. "With Atlanta, you have a freaking rocket ship coming out of there at quarterback. The whole scheme is a bitch to defend. Both teams don't do a lot. So no matter what the defense does, they are able to practice against it because they aren't bogging down their players with too many runs." It's what Redskins defensive line coach Greg Blache calls the "Colonel Sanders" philosophy: "They do one thing well; they do chicken right." But having Vick gives the Falcons the edge over Denver in rushing. He has 470 yards this season after gaining 902 yards--the third most by a quarterback in NFL history--in 2004.

Yet the Bronco Scheme doesn't need a Vick to excel. Shanahan has produced five different 1,000-yard rushers--most of whom have been low-round draft choices--including 1995 sixth-round pick Terrell Davis, who gained 2,008 yards in 1998. Run Dayne, a flop with the Giants, set up the winning field goal against Dallas on Thanksgiving with a 55-yard overtime run. "He is a 1,000-yard rusher in our system as a starter," says Shanahan matter-of-factly. Oh, yes, Dayne is a third-string back. In Atlanta, Dunn, who rushed for 1,106 yards last season, already has accumulated 1,174 this fall, a career high for the ninth-year veteran.

 So it's the system, not the backs, right? Not really. The Broncos never sign a jitterbug back whose instincts push him toward multiple fakes and ad-lib scrambles. Dunn had those tendencies pre-Gibbs; to function in the system, he has transformed himself. He now is a one-cut runner whose goal on every carry is to avoid negative yards. So if there is no hole, he plows ahead anyway. "We're taught to gain at least a blade of grass on every attempt," says Falcons fullback Fred McCrary. If you are indecisive and unwilling to be tough and run downhill, you won't run for these teams.

Still, it is what happens up front, among the athletic, quick and, for the NFL, small linemen that makes the Bronco Scheme different and so effective. To uncover why, we need to go to the videotape.

On the huge screen is a football choreography contrary to anything you'd anticipate about this most muscular of sports. In lock step, linemen move: shoulders square, in perfect balance, sliding effortlessly down the scrimmage line, nearly 1,500 pounds of nimbleness--a dance of intricacy and precision.

These images, on this large screen within the headquarters of NFL Films, display the foundation of all that has been dominant about the Bronco Scheme. Before T.J. Duckett or Mike Anderson can gain a yard, their linemen must first become Baryshnikovs in shoulder pads, drilled to work in unison, geared to frustrate defenders unable to crack the formidable barrier presented by this picket fence in motion.

Several years ago, Denver's linemen had another term to describe their meticulousness.

Trained seals.

Here on the screen, the current Broncos linemen are working against the Redskins' defense. The usual NFL approach to run blocking is macho-oriented. You take on opponents man-to-man, firing straight into them alone or in tandem with a teammate, with the goal to knock them up the field, away from the line and apart from each other. The ultimate triumph of this mentality is the pancake block--sending the defender onto his derriere. But the Bronco Scheme is based on zone blocking, in which you worry about protecting an area and the defenders who intrude into it. The movement is lateral, not straight ahead. The pivotal word here is stretch--the linemen want to stretch the field and force the defense to run laterally with them. The more it stretches, the more creases open for the running back.

On virtually every stretch play, you will see multiple double-teams by the linemen--what they call a "hat and one-half" on each down defender. The heads of the linemen are always up; they are constantly looking, moving. Once the double-teamed defender is under control, one of the Broncos' linemen will split away seamlessly and move to the next zone, the next opponent, lending help to another teammate. Or he will scurry to the next level to hunt down linebackers and safeties. On the backside, away from the direction of the running back, the linemen frequently use cut blocks--blocks aimed at the thighs and rolled to the feet--to knock down defenders and limit pursuit. It is a controversial block--defensive players hate it because it attacks their legs--but it is legal and has a purpose.

"You knock down a 330-pound nose tackle for three quarters and he is really tired in the fourth," says FOX and SPORTING NEWS analyst Brian Baldinger, a former NFL lineman and our videotape guide on this day. "So all of a sudden he is too fatigued to make the same tackle he made in the first half. And that 3-yard run becomes a 30-yarder." So the Bronco Scheme preaches patience. "It is a philosophy," says Mora. "You have to stay with the run and not abandon it. You have to have the mentality that the big plays will happen, that the big holes will be there." On third-and-5 or -6, when most teams pass, these two clubs just as often run, frequently from three-receiver sets. The Falcons average almost 35 carries a game, the Broncos 33. The rest of the league averages 27.

It is so maddening and methodical, this unrelenting stretch-the-field approach. "They block everything so it looks like an outside run, but it's not," says Dolphins middle linebacker Zach Thomas. "They're not trying to get to the edge; they are trying to run between the tackles. But they're moving the line sideways and waiting for you to commit. It's tough because everything you're taught to do on an outside run is to attack, and you have to fight your instincts." Because if a defender attacks, that's when he's nudged out of the way and the runner cuts into the resulting hole. Or, if the defense really overpursues, he cuts dramatically, in back of everyone. And that's when the scheme's emphasis on cutting down backside pursuit and sending linemen upfield to help receivers block linebackers and defensive backs leads to long gains.

"If we are running it well, you can hear defensive guys muttering to themselves in the fourth quarter," Falcons right guard Kynan Forney says. "They are tired, they don't want to tackle anymore. Basically, they lose life; you can feel it."

To constantly move sideways and stay in front of defenders requires players with quickness and athleticism. Both franchises have found these linemen mostly in the lower rounds; five of the 10 starters were picked after the fourth round, and another, Denver left tackle Matt Lepsis, was an undrafted college tight end. But the Bronco Scheme allows someone such as Denver center Tom Nalen (6-3, 286) to become a dominant player, a potential Hall of Famer.

"They play with a great awareness," Baldinger says. "They don't block guys who have no chance of making a play. And they give a defense so much to think about: the stretch, the cutback, the bootleg, the reverse. It slows defenses down, makes them have to play perfect on every snap."

It also is why Shanahan was eager to bring in Jake Plummer to replace slow-footed Brian Griese at quarterback two years ago. With Griese, the bootleg part of the scheme disappeared; with Plummer, it has returned with a flourish.

"It takes smart people to play this system," former Broncos lineman David Diaz-Infante says. "The guys are so good at knowing who to block. If a defense gives you an eight-man front or stunts or blitzes, the guys know how their assignment changes, and they make the changes immediately as the play is evolving on the field. That's why they are so sound play after play."

 But the linemen also function within a strange code of conduct formulated by Gibbs, who boycotts the media. In both Denver and Atlanta, usually only one lineman gives interviews. Otherwise, an internal kangaroo court fines linemen even for having their name mentioned in stories. "It's all part of what you learn as a young lineman," Broncos right tackle George Foster says. "There is a standard on and off the field, and you are expected to live up to it. Otherwise, you don't last." Even current line coaches Rick Dennison in Denver and Jeff Jagodzinski in Atlanta buy into the silence. Jagodzinskl, in his first season as line coach, still is learning from Gibbs. But Dennison, who has a masters in civil engineering, has excelled since replacing Gibbs. "I don't think I have been with a coach as bright as he is," Shanahan says.

What also hasn't changed is the difficulty of neutralizing the Bronco Scheme. Familiarity helps. Division rival Tampa plays the Falcons twice a season and has found that its own quickness has created problems for Atlanta's offense. But for teams such as the Jaguars, who have played Denver the past two seasons, preparation for the scheme is more taxing. "What the scheme does," says Jaguars defensive coordinator Mike Smith, "is force you to be solid in gap integrity. They want to get two of their guys in the gap, and we can't let them do that or it opens up a run lane. They want to push you sideways, by the hole. So you have to be disciplined and have your color uniform in each gap. Then they give you all the window dressing with different formations and motion and all, and you have to cut through that, too."

If you have a defensive front such as Jacksonville's, which is strong and athletic enough to push upfield and cut into the lateral flow, suddenly the picket fence breaks. You don't want gap penetrators but rather gap maintainers who can shove the Bronco Scheme linemen backward. Still, so far this season, no team has held Atlanta under 115 yards rushing, and its average per game is 10.8 yards higher than last year's club record. Since two sub-100-yard rushing games to open the schedule, the Broncos have gained no fewer than 121 yards, and there is a chance Anderson and Tatum Bell might become the first backs under Shanahan to each gain 1,000 in the same season.

"You may not win championships because you run the ball well," says Shanahan, owner of two Super Bowl rings, "but it certainly gives you a better chance than if you can't."

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Re: Outside Zone....Running the Defense Horizontal
« Reply #13 on: March 28, 2010, 08:59:16 PM »
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Re: Outside Zone....Running the Defense Horizontal
« Reply #14 on: March 28, 2010, 10:25:14 PM »
what reads do the FB and half back have to make in inside zone and outside zone... i played fb in situations in college but always on straight dive and off tackle plays nothing that really involved zone schemes

Big....

This is from a tiny brain coach (me)  coaching tiny brains ( my kids) .

The only reason...other than I am a die hard Broncos fan...I wanted to give zone a try was to save practice time. Initially it takes an extra bit of time but eventually you are saving time by not wasting time lining up your offense against all of the different defenses.

You sill have to go over the what ifs every week all season long but not against specific defenses because with zone your rules easily apply to the alignments and then are executed by how the defense reacts.

Thats the hardest part teaching  kids zone...getting them to properly react off of the defenses reaction and then just do your job. It actually creates smarter linemen IMO.

As far as the backs and what they do.

A good zone back anticipates the play of the near and middle second level defenders. That is the $64K question. At what age can a youngster begin to anticipate a football play? Soon enough if you pick the right kid and he gets his reps.

Zone creates smarter backs.

So….the back must learn to take a handoff with his eyes downfield. Therefore the QB cant get lazy on you. Then he must press his monument or the POA. We do not run to a numbered hole. We will run to the OT’s pre snap outside foot, for example and the back must get to that mark period. While he is aiming at that mark and running downhill his eyes go from near backer to middle backer…near being the nearest to his monument. If the near backer disappears then he has a 75% chance he will continue on his path…so do so. If he does not disappear then eyes to the middle. If that backer hangs, bounce to the perimeter immediately, if he disappears then press the monument and make one cut back to the middle of the field. If you can get your back to make that cut to the middle on time…IT IS A HUGE GAIN…because your BST is in the process of destroying an unsuspecting back side linebacker.

Always teach your backs to press the monument and if nothing else squeeze into a crack and drive hard taking whatever you can get. Not every play is going to read perfectly…hence the question…at what age can kids do this and learn to anticipate.

Denver made 6th round running backs into superstars because they could run the zone. Portis, a higher round draft pick failed in Denver and wanted out and has done well in another system. My experiences is a FB type kid is better than the scat back type kid running zone. Don’t know why…I don’t analyze because its youth ball and kids are so different.



Same with the DW…my backs ended up playing defense the one season I ran it and my receivers ran the toss because they weren’t used to running thru holes…so it fit them perfectly.  Zone is not running thru holes….its running to a mark and then hitting the alley that will be there depending on two play side defenders and how they react...assuming of course everyone else is doing their job.

Hope that helps...took me a few years to realize...the  backs are just as important as the blocking so you will NEVER hear a back bitching at o-linemen in a zone scheme...because he is just as much at fault when things are not clicking.

Coach Mike


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