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Re: Special teams- Picket fence return
« Reply #30 on: December 30, 2012, 12:19:39 AM »
The huddle return is a good one unless the football is kicked to the numbers and you are right...an inexpensive teach.

Ya, anytime i can score TD's w/ out blocking people, i'll spend a few minutes on it....

We'd score darn near every KOR if they kick it where we want it... When they kick it on the numbers, we usually run reverse & fake reverse, which also takes zero blocking. 

All that stuff is just luxury stuff.  We spend much more time on onside return & onside kick.
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Re: Special teams- Picket fence return
« Reply #31 on: December 30, 2012, 12:32:51 AM »
Ya, anytime i can score TD's w/ out blocking people, i'll spend a few minutes on it....

We'd score darn near every KOR if they kick it where we want it... When they kick it on the numbers, we usually run reverse & fake reverse, which also takes zero blocking. 

All that stuff is just luxury stuff.  We spend much more time on onside return & onside kick.

I know of two important games over the last three years where we recovered three onside kicks in the games. Had we not, we would have lost. To receive on sides, I teach the front row to let it go and block. I want all blockers to sprint to a point in front of the recovery man and protect. It serves no purpose when they simply block the man in front of them.
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Re: Special teams- Picket fence return
« Reply #32 on: December 30, 2012, 12:41:28 AM »
I know of two important games over the last three years where we recovered three onside kicks in the games. Had we not, we would have lost. To receive on sides, I teach the front row to let it go and block. I want all blockers to sprint to a point in front of the recovery man and protect. It serves no purpose when they simply block the man in front of them.
we won 3 games this season because of special, special teams play. I love the onside kick and we averaged one a game this past season. The picket fence , that we affectionately call the great wall is awesome and we install it in one 15 minute slot and rep.it for 10 minutes but only install it from Jr.pewee and up.

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Re: Special teams- Picket fence return
« Reply #33 on: December 30, 2012, 12:48:15 AM »
Ever tried onside kick, w/ out the tee?  Put the ball on the ground, each nose facing each sideline.  Kicker, kicks the inside nose of the ball, & the ball just spins like crazy.  Very easy to contol & is pretty effective once the kicker gets it down.
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Re: Special teams- Picket fence return
« Reply #34 on: December 30, 2012, 01:01:29 AM »
Ever tried onside kick, w/ out the tee?  Put the ball on the ground, each nose facing each sideline.  Kicker, kicks the inside nose of the ball, & the ball just spins like crazy.  Very easy to contol & is pretty effective once the kicker gets it down.
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Re: Special teams- Picket fence return
« Reply #35 on: December 30, 2012, 11:52:57 AM »
Ever tried onside kick, w/ out the tee?  Put the ball on the ground, each nose facing each sideline.  Kicker, kicks the inside nose of the ball, & the ball just spins like crazy.  Very easy to contol & is pretty effective once the kicker gets it down.

I think there was a discussion about this in the ST Section that I thought made this illegal?
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Re: Special teams- Picket fence return
« Reply #36 on: December 30, 2012, 12:05:37 PM »
I think there was a discussion about this in the ST Section that I thought made this illegal?

Nope.  It's completely legal, as long as you play by HS, COLLEGE or NFL RULES.

Just started doing it this year.  Never had an issue.  Did it in the playoffs
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Re: Special teams- Picket fence return
« Reply #37 on: December 30, 2012, 01:35:25 PM »
We call that a watermelon kick. It can be a pita to control. The thing spins and bpunces all sorts of different ways.

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Re: Special teams- Picket fence return
« Reply #38 on: December 30, 2012, 02:23:08 PM »
I have heard whispers of high school coaches looking into the onside every time and never punt philosophy. The numbers just don't lie. But I will concede that a team that can punt well in youth has a huge advantage.
There is one high school team that I know of who's coach kicks onside ever single time and recovers a high percentage of them. And he almost never punts. He got up on a team by like 28 points before the other team even got the ball. They ended up only winning by like 1 point. There is a coach in my league who refuses to punt, no matter field position. He sees punting as surrendering.

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Re: Special teams- Picket fence return
« Reply #39 on: January 03, 2013, 03:03:18 AM »
As promised, the lateral pass-picket fence return. Poorly lit field, sorry. Set your screen to full and
slow mo it. If you look close, you'll see our returner catch it in flight, then toss it to receiver at the top
of the fence. There's a fan blocking the view a bit.
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Re: Special teams- Picket fence return
« Reply #40 on: January 03, 2013, 07:11:31 AM »
As promised, the lateral pass-picket fence return. Poorly lit field, sorry. Set your screen to full and
slow mo it. If you look close, you'll see our returner catch it in flight, then toss it to receiver at the top
of the fence. There's a fan blocking the view a bit.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJR1LWhTWN4
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Re: Special teams- Picket fence return
« Reply #41 on: January 03, 2013, 01:29:15 PM »
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Re: Special teams- Picket fence return
« Reply #42 on: January 09, 2013, 07:03:15 PM »
I have heard whispers of high school coaches looking into the onside every time and never punt philosophy. The numbers just don't lie. But I will concede that a team that can punt well in youth has a huge advantage.
Local high school onside kicked not every time, but very often, and in different situations (leading, trailing, to start the game, ect.).

Most parents hated it, I loved it.

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Re: Special teams- Picket fence return
« Reply #43 on: January 10, 2013, 07:02:55 PM »
Local high school onside kicked not every time, but very often, and in different situations (leading, trailing, to start the game, ect.).

Most parents hated it, I loved it.

I've kicked off deep, maybe 5 times my entire coaching career. When you do the math, it works.
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Re: Special teams- Picket fence return
« Reply #44 on: January 11, 2013, 08:58:59 AM »
we actually ran that in high school.we scored TONS of TD's my 4 years running that.of course both our kick returns went D1 so that helps a little too.