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Naked Youth vs High School
« on: May 08, 2017, 06:55:46 PM »
A well executed Naked Boot pass is a thing of beauty at any level. I have run a version for many years at both levels. That being said there is a distinct difference between what I do at the HS level & at the Youth Level. At the Youth Level we would protect with 2 basic methods & they depended on the caliber of coached team we faced.

Most Youth teams the DE's roar up field not reading a blessed thing. This creates an issue when trying to protect a true Naked. True Naked the Protection would be Slide Away from the Naked side. Our answer since this was a constant problem against the lesser coached teams was to Slide To the Boot side & have the HBack delay to help set the edge for the QB before releasing on his Slam route(see my power point for details). This now allowed us to run the play against the style of defense we saw a majority of the time. If we played a well coached team who was disciplined we would simply yell out Slide away from the boot & our players would adjust.

Technically I know Sliding to the Boot is no longer Naked but it worked.

What we do at the HS level sounds ridiculous at first, until you see it on film. We tell our OLinemen to turn & run straight down the LOS to the side opposite the Naked. They can block someone or not as long as they run to the other sideline(waddle in most cases). It sounds stupid until you see all the Dlinemen running with them. Now to handle the charging DE our HBack runs to the play from the other side & has to get over the up field shoulder of the contain man.
 He can not release on his Slam Route unless he gets to up field shoulder. If he doesn't then he blocks him & we still get the play off.

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Re: Naked Youth vs High School
« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2017, 07:53:32 PM »
MHCoach,

My FB-your H Back-is offset to left side, my Z Back is split wide left, and my TE is also on Left side on our Boot Right to show 5 ISO-one of our bread and butter.

We were trying to hit the TE as he drags across at 10 Yards depth, hit the X Back split out to the Right on a Vertical, or QB run-all called by me pre-snap and not a QB Read.

Would you sacrifice the 5 ISO look and offset FB to right to get the scrape block and then release on Arrow Route, and still fake the 5 ISO to TB, then run Boot Right?

I am coaching 12U this year also.


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Re: Naked Youth vs High School
« Reply #3 on: May 08, 2017, 10:02:10 PM »
MHCoach,

My FB-your H Back-is offset to left side, my Z Back is split wide left, and my TE is also on Left side on our Boot Right to show 5 ISO-one of our bread and butter.Take the FB across to the top shoulder of the edge defender,
 then on the arrow. This gives you an under & an over.


We were trying to hit the TE as he drags across at 10 Yards depth, hit the X Back split out to the Right on a Vertical, or QB run-all called by me pre-snap and not a QB Read.If you have a QB that can throw the vertical on a boot that is amazing. It would be a 30-35 yd pass! Run the X on either an outside comeback or a K route(think post corner without the vertical stem). Now it is a more reasonable throw.

Would you sacrifice the 5 ISO look and offset FB to right to get the scrape block and then release on Arrow Route, and still fake the 5 ISO to TB, then run Boot Right?I would leave him on the left run him to the right behind the line telling him to run over the edge defender.

I am coaching 12U this year also.At 12U our Naked was our best pass play.
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Re: Naked Youth vs High School
« Reply #4 on: May 08, 2017, 10:11:43 PM »
Thanks for Sharing.

The HS version isn't stupid at all.
From HS and up the linebackers are reading Flow/the guards.
If they see a full zone slide and a back go one way they are going to follow flow.

Below the highschool level linebackers could have their head in the clouds and not even pay attention to the fake, thus standing still and getting an extra step on the Q by default. At that point your better off just sliding to the roll out for the extra protection.

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Re: Naked Youth vs High School
« Reply #5 on: May 08, 2017, 10:20:08 PM »
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We started running Naked this way about 3 years ago. I got the way to do it from a clinic & we simply the results. On the Goal line it is deadly especially if we see man.

Joe
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Re: Naked Youth vs High School
« Reply #6 on: May 09, 2017, 10:14:50 AM »
The words "naked" and "youth" on message board might wanna be re worded or ordered lol
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Re: Naked Youth vs High School
« Reply #7 on: May 09, 2017, 10:26:30 AM »
Thanks Coach.

I will make those changes.

My other option is to run the Flood.

We would Play action off of a 6 ISO, with FB off-set right showing block then to Arrow, with TE on Right running Banana Route , and Z-Back split wide right running vertical.

I only have practice time I think for the Boot or the Flood for the first couple of games.  Which would you choose?

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Re: Naked Youth vs High School
« Reply #8 on: May 09, 2017, 07:42:46 PM »
Thanks Coach.

I will make those changes.

My other option is to run the Flood.

We would Play action off of a 6 ISO, with FB off-set right showing block then to Arrow, with TE on Right running Banana Route , and Z-Back split wide right running vertical.

I only have practice time I think for the Boot or the Flood for the first couple of games.  Which would you choose?Naked has always been money at the 12U. So it would be my first choice but I think both aren't that hard to install.

When we were an I team we ran 4 PAP's 2 drop backs & 2 Quick Game that is 8 passes total. Definitely doable at 12.

Joe
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Re: Naked Youth vs High School
« Reply #9 on: May 13, 2017, 05:05:41 PM »
I like the way you are handling the PS DE. 

PS T Runs Away or Blocks Down
BS H Runs at DE (would look like Kick Out), and then over the top to slam route.  {BS TE or Slot runs drag}

I would think the PS DE would read Counter?


Joe have you seen boot out of gun?  Guy asked me last week, and I don't recall ever seeing it.

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Re: Naked Youth vs High School
« Reply #10 on: May 13, 2017, 06:03:20 PM »
Matt

We have done it from the Gun & Pistol, Pistol is far superior.

Joe
Here is Naked left from pistol:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TFD6QY__d4&feature=youtu.be
« Last Edit: May 13, 2017, 08:31:33 PM by MHcoach »
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Re: Naked Youth vs High School
« Reply #11 on: July 03, 2017, 01:43:35 PM »
IMO, the key to making naked boots work is to look for the right time to call them.  I like to call them when we see the BSDE chasing the play instead of staying home like he's supposed to.  If he's taking a couple of steps to chase the ball on a sweep or any other run play away from him, the time is right to call bootleg.  I like using it as not just a pass and a way to keep the backside DE in check, but also as a kind of poor man's counter.

This stuff works best from under center because of the angles and lines of sight.  It works ok from Pistol.  From the gun, you can do it, but it's not as deceptive because defenders tend to see the ball and everyone runs zone read now, so they're looking for the QB keep.

Fun fact: the original idea behind the zone read was for the QB to simply read the BSDE for a naked boot off zone instead of just giving the ball and faking the boot or faking the handoff and running the boot.  Rich Rodriguez had a QB at Glenville St. in the late 90s, IIRC, who was athletic and prone to freelancing.  One day in practice, they called an inside zone play and the QB saw the DE turning his shoulders, so he pulled the ball out and ran for about a 60 yard TD.  After thoroughly chewing his butt out for not doing what he was told, a light went on and the coaches asked the kid if he could do that again.  And he did.  Over and over again.  A revolution was born.

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Re: Naked Youth vs High School
« Reply #12 on: July 07, 2017, 10:04:25 AM »
This is us running Naked in practice.

Joe
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Re: Naked Youth vs High School
« Reply #13 on: July 07, 2017, 11:12:30 AM »
This is us running Naked in practice.

Joe


Thanks for sharing Joe. Do you still have H chuck the 5 most times or is it a call?
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Re: Naked Youth vs High School
« Reply #14 on: July 07, 2017, 12:28:00 PM »
MC

His rule is to get over the up field shoulder before continuing on his route. The DE steps down he comes over the top.

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