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Re: Power I Offense's Playbook
« Reply #15 on: August 02, 2017, 10:57:42 AM »
C

The FB goes first. He clears the WB on 44 so he must be able to. Now it's just one hole wider.


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Re: Power I Offense's Playbook
« Reply #16 on: August 02, 2017, 11:00:37 AM »
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The FB goes first. He clears the WB on 44 so he must be able to. Now it's just one hole wider.


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Would you cheat the FB up or over to insure he gets there?

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Re: Power I Offense's Playbook
« Reply #17 on: August 02, 2017, 11:09:51 AM »
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Only if I had to cheat him up on 44.

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Re: Power I Offense's Playbook
« Reply #18 on: August 02, 2017, 11:12:16 AM »
You can't cheat for just one play.

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Re: Power I Offense's Playbook
« Reply #19 on: August 02, 2017, 11:21:05 AM »
You can't cheat for just one play.
I agree. That would be a dead give away.

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Re: Power I Offense's Playbook
« Reply #20 on: August 03, 2017, 08:57:49 AM »
There is cheating an alignment & cheating an alignment. 1/2 a step tighter or deeper is difficult to pick up, off set is clear an easy to see. When we cheated an alignment it is never more then a half a step. On Toss in particular we always deepened our TB by a 1/2 a step. No one ever noticed. Of course you would think the formation would have given it away, but we did other things to keep people honest.

Heck, we even cheated alignments on defense when we stunted. Again it was a very slight amount & I think it was really to get the player to think he had an advantage rather then actually getting an advantage.

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Re: Power I Offense's Playbook
« Reply #21 on: August 03, 2017, 09:35:08 AM »
There is cheating an alignment & cheating an alignment. 1/2 a step tighter or deeper is difficult to pick up, off set is clear an easy to see. When we cheated an alignment it is never more then a half a step. On Toss in particular we always deepened our TB by a 1/2 a step. No one ever noticed. Of course you would think the formation would have given it away, but we did other things to keep people honest.

Heck, we even cheated alignments on defense when we stunted. Again it was a very slight amount & I think it was really to get the player to think he had an advantage rather then actually getting an advantage.

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That is the only way I would ever have the boys cheat with alignment. Just slightly up or back. Never to the side.

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Re: Power I Offense's Playbook
« Reply #22 on: August 03, 2017, 09:55:13 AM »
Coached with a guy recently who cheated so much in one formation that our defense knew the play every single snap. An exaggerated cheat exclusive to a single play. Just dumb. Infuriating to me and he never figured out how they knew. He thought the defense was hearing the playcall.

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Re: Power I Offense's Playbook
« Reply #23 on: August 03, 2017, 09:59:12 AM »
Coached with a guy recently who cheated so much in one formation that our defense knew the play every single snap. An exaggerated cheat exclusive to a single play. Just dumb. Infuriating to me and he never figured out how they knew. He thought the defense was hearing the playcall.
The only time I would ever over cheat is if I wanted them to cue on the cheat so I could run a counter/reverse in the other direction.

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Re: Power I Offense's Playbook
« Reply #24 on: April 23, 2018, 11:11:01 PM »
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I have been looking at the Brooklyn Power I for the winter and have a few questions. 

1.  In running the Pack Right 44 wham and the Pack Right Fake 44 Give 36 what do you look for (indicators) to decide when to go from the 44 to the 36 or vice versa?  I assume the counter is called when the backers are seen flowing to the 44 and 36 but specifically what do you look for between the 44 and 36.
 
2.  Other than the counter it appears that if the defense keys the fullback he will take you to the play do you have any calls to counter this such as a G call or other plays or did it not seem to matter.

3.  I know you have said this is the base package to install.   What other plays do you look to put in later for playoffs etc...?

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Re: Power I Offense's Playbook
« Reply #25 on: April 24, 2018, 06:09:22 PM »
Joe
 
I have been looking at the Brooklyn Power I for the winter and have a few questions. 

1.  In running the Pack Right 44 wham and the Pack Right Fake 44 Give 36 what do you look for (indicators) to decide when to go from the 44 to the 36 or vice versa?  I assume the counter is called when the backers are seen flowing to the 44 and 36 but specifically what do you look for between the 44 and 36.

 Alignment as well as if the defense is starting to bite down on the first move.
 
2.  Other than the counter it appears that if the defense keys the fullback he will take you to the play do you have any calls to counter this such as a G call or other plays or did it not seem to matter.

We have found it really isn't that important early on, against better teams you will have other things.

3.  I know you have said this is the base package to install.   What other plays do you look to put in later for playoffs etc...?

Thanks Matt

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The I has so many plays that you can add. Speed Option, Dive Option, Power, Divide(Good if they are keying the FB). This is barely the tip of the iceberg, if you want give me a call & I can tell you what's best for your team.

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Re: Power I Offense's Playbook
« Reply #26 on: April 25, 2018, 01:06:56 AM »
In somewhat-related news, here's a cool article on the I:

https://www.si.com/vault/1978/11/20/823167/its-not-just-a-run-of-luck-mike-garrett-o-j-simpson-clarence-davis-anthony-davis-ricky-bell-and-now-this-man-charles-white-there-has-to-be-a-reason-to-explain-uscs-illustrious-dynasty-at-tailback

Check out the comment about Marcus Allen.

It's from the same issue as Nebraska 17 Oklahoma 14 in 1978.

If there's ever been a better Sports Illustrated issue, I'm not aware of it.
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Re: Power I Offense's Playbook
« Reply #27 on: April 25, 2018, 07:00:00 AM »
In somewhat-related news, here's a cool article on the I:

https://www.si.com/vault/1978/11/20/823167/its-not-just-a-run-of-luck-mike-garrett-o-j-simpson-clarence-davis-anthony-davis-ricky-bell-and-now-this-man-charles-white-there-has-to-be-a-reason-to-explain-uscs-illustrious-dynasty-at-tailback

Check out the comment about Marcus Allen.

It's from the same issue as Nebraska 17 Oklahoma 14 in 1978.

If there's ever been a better Sports Illustrated issue, I'm not aware of it.
Ummmm, have you seen the swimsuit issues?

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Re: Power I Offense's Playbook
« Reply #28 on: April 25, 2018, 11:42:52 AM »
In somewhat-related news, here's a cool article on the I:

https://www.si.com/vault/1978/11/20/823167/its-not-just-a-run-of-luck-mike-garrett-o-j-simpson-clarence-davis-anthony-davis-ricky-bell-and-now-this-man-charles-white-there-has-to-be-a-reason-to-explain-uscs-illustrious-dynasty-at-tailback

Check out the comment about Marcus Allen.

It's from the same issue as Nebraska 17 Oklahoma 14 in 1978.

If there's ever been a better Sports Illustrated issue, I'm not aware of it.

Reminds me of a coach I talked to who sat in on a clinic talk by John Robinson on the USC offense.

He said that Robinson started out by drawing a bunch of big "O"s on the board in an I formation.  Then he drew a bunch of little "x"s on the defensive side.

Then he turned to the audience and said "This is the foundation of our offensive philosophy at USC.  Are there any questions?"

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Re: Power I Offense's Playbook
« Reply #29 on: April 25, 2018, 12:20:01 PM »
Ummmm, have you seen the swimsuit issues?

That's the flag football of sex magazines.
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