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Re: Learning styles, or lack thereof.
« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2018, 11:38:55 AM »
So leeches and blood letting arent the right way to go about health care either?

So TIRED of psycho babble bullshit that is NOT supported by data/science

Good work Michael
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Re: Learning styles, or lack thereof.
« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2018, 11:46:10 AM »
When I was in grad school 9 years ago, our instructors played up the importance of needing to appeal to different learning styles in every lesson, but during my first semester in the program our Adolescent Psych professor explained that was all BS and there was no credible research to show it objectively mattered.

He said it really just came down to simple personal preferences, but that the idea of students needing to be taught in multiple ways had taken hold in education like a lot of other well-meaning but clinically baseless ideas.  This is more proof he was right.

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Re: Learning styles, or lack thereof.
« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2018, 11:51:16 AM »
It's easy to see why it's so popular.  It's not that you are slow or your child is slow, or that you can't teach.  It's that the lesson isn't being taught in the proper learning style, dammit.

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Re: Learning styles, or lack thereof.
« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2018, 12:00:43 PM »
It's easy to see why it's so popular.  It's not that you are slow or your child is slow, or that you can't teach.  It's that the lesson isn't being taught in the proper learning style, dammit.

"I'm not going to read this, I'm a visual learner, for crying out loud."

Same thing about not being a good "test taker"
I call bullshit

When I wasnt well prepared for tests I didnt do well either  ::)
Excuses

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Re: Learning styles, or lack thereof.
« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2018, 12:12:58 PM »
I dont think I have ever seen a playbook that didn't include diagrams.

Are we now saying that this isnt necessarily a better tool for learning?
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Re: Learning styles, or lack thereof.
« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2018, 12:17:48 PM »
I dont think I have ever seen a playbook that didn't include diagrams.

Are we now saying that this isnt necessarily a better tool for learning?

Someone just kill me.
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Re: Learning styles, or lack thereof.
« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2018, 12:24:59 PM »
Someone just kill me.

Hey...its a football Forum so it relates.

I found it an interesting article.
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Re: Learning styles, or lack thereof.
« Reply #8 on: April 10, 2018, 12:30:58 PM »
I dont think I have ever seen a playbook that didn't include diagrams.

Are we now saying that this isnt necessarily a better tool for learning?

No, but I've seen plenty of successful coaches who don't give out playbooks or diagrams because they've found them to be wastes of time.

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Re: Learning styles, or lack thereof.
« Reply #9 on: April 10, 2018, 12:35:05 PM »
Same thing about not being a good "test taker"
I call bullshit

When I wasnt well prepared for tests I didnt do well either  ::)
Excuses

I'm a great coach I just don't perform well in front of others.
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Re: Learning styles, or lack thereof.
« Reply #10 on: April 10, 2018, 12:57:21 PM »
Same thing about not being a good "test taker"
I call bullshit

When I wasnt well prepared for tests I didnt do well either  ::)
Excuses

In my case, it wasn't BS.  It was a fact.  And my test scores verified this fact.  The fact that I didn't study and wasn't well-prepared was the reason I scored low.  So my results showed that I did a lousy job of taking tests.  I also did a lousy job of preparing for them.  No BS here.  Don't prepare, and your results will be the facts. 

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Re: Learning styles, or lack thereof.
« Reply #11 on: April 10, 2018, 12:59:27 PM »
I do think that there are different teaching/coaching methods that work depending on the student/player.  I have some kids that I can kick in the ass and it works better than just talking to them.  I have others that, if I were to kick them in the ass, they would shut it down and not listen.  The difference is that we are looking to do what is best for the team in football.  In school, I don't think that they are looking at the collective results (or are they)?

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Re: Learning styles, or lack thereof.
« Reply #12 on: April 10, 2018, 01:03:29 PM »
I have some kids that I can kick in the ass and it works better than just talking to them.

And that ^, in and of itself, is a teaching style.  Well said, Eric.

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Re: Learning styles, or lack thereof.
« Reply #13 on: April 10, 2018, 01:06:44 PM »
I feel like the cat in Hong Kong Phooey.

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Re: Learning styles, or lack thereof.
« Reply #14 on: April 10, 2018, 01:10:00 PM »
I feel like the cat in Hong Kong Phooey.

Wasn't he the number one super guy?

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