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Offline gumby_in_co

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Mesh coaching points - Read Option
« on: March 09, 2018, 01:59:53 PM »
So I'm going to try a simple read option from Beast because "why not". Z back will come in motion in front of the QB. Force defender us unblocked. QB will "give unless". So he will give unless the force comes upfield to stop the sweep. If he keeps, he runs the off tackle like we do a million times.

When I run scout read option against the #1 defense, I hold the ball in both hands, one against the RBs belly.  I ride him as I make my read. If I want to give, I remove the belly hand and let him take it from me. If I want to keep, I pull both hands along with the ball. Seems to work for me. Zero fumbles and only had a back take the ball away from me one time when I intended to keep it.

Am I on the right track?  Any other mesh tips?
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Re: Mesh coaching points - Read Option
« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2018, 05:55:44 PM »
For me the important thing is Holding the ride for all its worth.  That means a wide fairly wise stance for the QB.  A lot of folks will say hip to hip or shoulder to shoulder, I like back foot to front foot, hence the wider stance.  The technique you describe for the Keep/Release is good.  I would add that, on the give, you give a slight shove as you remove the hand to let the Back know its yours baby!  They real key is finding the proper distance for the mesh.  You dont want them running into each other.  So the angle of the step and position of the ball is critical.  I dont want the QB's elbows fully extended but I also dont want his hands rubbing his belly.  Belt high, elbows slightly rub his front.  As you know the fake is just as critical, the Back must carry out through the LOS.  The longer the Ride, the better the fake the more you suck that Read guy to do what you want him to do. 

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Re: Mesh coaching points - Read Option
« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2018, 06:03:01 PM »
L

You are basically describing our Jet/Power Read play. The only difference being we pull the off side Guard to Block power.

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QB steps to Jet side as he catches the ball, extending it from hip to hip of the Jet man. We use a 1/4 turn disconnect so the QB never has take two hands off the ball. This means as he extends the ball he turns it a 1/4 turn away from the back so his hands won't touch the man's belly. As he places the ball into the pocket he takes a small "Crow Hop" with the back so he gets to stay on the ride a click longer. On the snap his head goes to the read side shoulder so his eyes are on the read the whole way. The back now becomes responsible for the mesh. We teach our backs to come over the ball & never grab at it. Especially since our QB's will often stay on the ride as long as possible. They only clamp down after they are past the QB & the ball is still there.

The actual read is something we have changed over time. It's seems like every defense is trying to give false reads. We used to read the man's shoulders, now we read his eyes. We have found his eyes never lie.

The last issue is the QB's path after the ride. Since we are blocking Power, the QB's run path is A to B to C. He needs to start on that path by bending it back slightly, find the pulling Guard & go.

I hope that helps otherwise give me a call & I can walk you through the finer points.

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Re: Mesh coaching points - Read Option
« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2018, 02:19:37 PM »
L

Something I left out, you need to determine what is the default. Since we are blocking Power, that is the default. So we teach the QB if he keeps he is never wrong. The Give is only when he is certain the read man can't tackle the give back.

On Zone the default is the Zone Man, so we expect a give.

Hope that clears things up.

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Re: Mesh coaching points - Read Option
« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2018, 12:30:37 AM »
L

Something I left out, you need to determine what is the default. Since we are blocking Power, that is the default. So we teach the QB if he keeps he is never wrong. The Give is only when he is certain the read man can't tackle the give back.

On Zone the default is the Zone Man, so we expect a give.

Hope that clears things up.

Joe

Yeah, I was going to do "give unless", but from Beast, I think it should be "keep unless". That way, we're running our base play by default. Force guy isn't kicked because he's being optioned.
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Re: Mesh coaching points - Read Option
« Reply #5 on: March 12, 2018, 09:23:31 AM »
I liked the "point" method i think Its called.  No ride..and very quick for youngsters to pick up... i used it in sbv and flex using quick hitters so from direct snap aughta be just fine
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Re: Mesh coaching points - Read Option
« Reply #6 on: March 12, 2018, 01:03:02 PM »
IMHO when you are dealing with Jet , any Read or Fake using Jet; then ball security becomes a major issue. This is the reason we advocate a full 2 handed ride. The QB is now in full control of the ball at all times. It is of paramount importance we protect the ball.

We run several plays in our Jet series, I think we have some pretty good results at Youth & Hs with our Jet Series. What I am describing has a very good record in experience.

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