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Offline nwmocb

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Option out of Pistol
« on: June 16, 2014, 09:04:40 AM »
Anyone have a playbook detailing option out of the pistol offense?

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Re: Option out of Pistol
« Reply #1 on: June 16, 2014, 12:42:25 PM »
Anyone have a playbook detailing option out of the pistol offense?


http://www.amazon.com/Pistol-Option-Plays-James-Vint/dp/160679227X

I bought the ebook version a few years ago.  Good stuff.

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Re: Option out of Pistol
« Reply #3 on: June 17, 2014, 07:06:52 PM »
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run jet sweep above, right wing quick motions to left, he doesn't know if he is getting ball or not this will force him to carry thru with fake if he doesn't. Q runs flat right 2 steps until RW clears and then attacks off tackle forcing the emlos to commit, plants foot n pitches to H.

simple its just speed sweep one way and speed option the other

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Re: Option out of Pistol
« Reply #4 on: June 17, 2014, 08:10:50 PM »
We gave an Option look. We blocked the play like Jet and we taught the QB, One, Two, Pitch. Not much of and Option but had people thinking we were running Option. This year we are putting in the Jet slide, which we will evolve to Optioning the DE.

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Re: Option out of Pistol
« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2016, 02:28:19 PM »
You can also reach out to Coach Anthony Pratley, Jerry Campbell, and Vint. It's a lot of pistol coaches out there. Coach Cox made a DW version of it as well. The last one I used was Pratley's Silencer package and power pistol attack. Did very well for us this season.
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Re: Option out of Pistol
« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2016, 09:14:59 PM »
...................................<-------H
.......................................<----Q
...........................RW>>>>--------------->.LW
.................O..................O..O..C..O..O....................O
...................................E......T......T.......E
...................C.................L.......L........L................C
..............................S................................S

run jet sweep above, right wing quick motions to left, he doesn't know if he is getting ball or not
Who/what is Q reading to decide that?

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Re: Option out of Pistol
« Reply #7 on: March 18, 2016, 11:20:01 AM »
Who/what is Q reading to decide that?

Bobby G, this is a split flow styled play. The defense reaction to motion is the key here. They roll with motion option hits backside, no adjust? = jet sweep is on! We can always run option to the same side as the jet sweep using as lead blocker. Once safety bites up passing game is wide open...pitch n pass the corner comes up and tries to beat the block leaving reciever all alone = MONEY!

defensive coach might say something like - "yah well thats not gonna work on me because my C will stick to your receiver like glue" the response is  -good tell receiver to go track block the safety, my 1 player just took out 2 defenders, 1 cuz the block and 1 cuz "he is sticking to him like glue"

and to directly answer your question the DE or the OLB pending DE alignment and capabilitys

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Re: Option out of Pistol
« Reply #8 on: March 18, 2016, 11:23:36 AM »
Bobby G, this is a split flow styled play. The defense reaction to motion is the key here. They roll with motion option hits backside, no adjust? = jet sweep is on! We can always run option to the same side as the jet sweep using as lead blocker. Once safety bites up passing game is wide open...pitch n pass the corner comes up and tries to beat the block leaving reciever all alone = MONEY!

defensive coach might say something like - "yah well thats not gonna work on me because my C will stick to your receiver like glue" the response is  -good tell receiver to go track block the safety, my 1 player just took out 2 defenders, 1 cuz the block and 1 cuz "he is sticking to him like glue"

and to directly answer your question the DE or the OLB pending DE alignment and capabilitys
I think you writing "forcing the emlos to commit" answers who he is reading.

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Re: Option out of Pistol
« Reply #9 on: March 18, 2016, 11:33:40 AM »
I think you writing "forcing the emlos to commit" answers who he is reading.

yah but that would of normally already been known, I was trying to figure out why he would ask?

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Re: Option out of Pistol
« Reply #10 on: March 18, 2016, 11:36:00 AM »
I think it turns into who becomes the emlos which is to me who ever shows. That de might have some sort of stunt going on or who knows what.

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Re: Option out of Pistol
« Reply #11 on: March 18, 2016, 11:45:36 AM »
yes this is correct pending call, DE attempts to engage my OT, press from outside in & read, then my OT will engage and attack outside shoulder, sometimes he is letting him go to get to OLB. If he is stunting in, he is giving his outside shoulder, we take it, again pending our play call. BUT this means the OLB is right off his butt and comes up "usually" and replaces the DE.

 

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Re: Option out of Pistol
« Reply #12 on: March 20, 2016, 06:17:48 PM »
and to directly answer your question the DE or the OLB pending DE alignment and capabilitys
I asked because in 2013 we had a similar play: motion across and our QB decided whether to call for the snap & hand off, or to delay the snap call & then run-pass option to the side the motion came from.  But I never heard Coach Kenny, who put the play in, say how to read it.  Either he gave a key some time when I was helping with defense, or he expected him to figure it out on general principles.  In fact recently elsewhere (might've been Huey's or might've been the new Facebook group) someone asked whether anyone had experience with pre-snap read run-pass options like that, and I described this one just saying he bases it on "whether the defense reacts to the motion".  The play was in a series with other plays that exploited the trips receivers created by the motion.

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Re: Option out of Pistol
« Reply #13 on: March 21, 2016, 11:58:11 AM »
yes this goes from a real simple split flow 2 play series to a dozen plays and a simple to complex passing attack. What I liked about this series is its isolates 1 player on 1 player, it allows you to pick on a perceived weakness either in alignment or assignment or a physical mismatch, big play potential and you can have a short yardage mindset.

motioning from doubles to trips and from trips to doubles both simply done BUT motioning from trips to doubles the back out of back field was left  un-covered so much it became a money route for us and 1 of our highest completion successful route calls even at goal line play.