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5-2 defense with 2 line backers blitzing both a gaps
« on: October 13, 2015, 03:05:53 PM »
we faced a 5-2 defense with both inside linebackers blitzing both A gaps ---they had a ng,2 3 techs dt's and 1 5 tech de and 1 9 tech de on my te side and we a 2 back twins I-formation--how should we attack this defense if we have to play them in the playoffs because they gave us problems with those blitz up both a gaps ----were should we attack in the run game thanks   

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Re: 5-2 defense with 2 line backers blitzing both a gaps
« Reply #1 on: October 13, 2015, 05:56:33 PM »
Looks like you just gotta block and get a good read by the rb on any zone run.

All gaps mean ide run gap scheme...so power/counter

If you have twins who are you pulling out of the secondart...quick pass game to the holes in the secondary

Sounds like a good day
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Re: 5-2 defense with 2 line backers blitzing both a gaps
« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2015, 06:17:08 PM »
Ok we pulled a LB out because they are. A 5-3 defense team and turned into a 5-2 defense

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Re: 5-2 defense with 2 line backers blitzing both a gaps
« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2015, 12:53:33 AM »
The depth of the coverage vs twins side will tell you a lot.

If they're focused on pass defense and you'll know after a play or two run quick game like verticals, vertical hitch, slant/arrow.  If they are close to press ide run smash.

If they are very run conscience play action and drag them to the tight end side.

Power to tight end, counter to closed side should be enough , truck to twins...maybe some screen game to wr (tunnel)
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Re: 5-2 defense with 2 line backers blitzing both a gaps
« Reply #4 on: October 14, 2015, 01:54:03 AM »
5-2 and everyone is attacking the Center?

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Re: 5-2 defense with 2 line backers blitzing both a gaps
« Reply #5 on: October 14, 2015, 02:18:00 PM »
ok with the fb leading the way for the tb off tackle ---we tried to pull and we couldn't because the center had a ng over him and they was blitzing both a gaps

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Re: 5-2 defense with 2 line backers blitzing both a gaps
« Reply #6 on: October 14, 2015, 06:39:23 PM »
ok with the fb leading the way for the tb off tackle ---we tried to pull and we couldn't because the center had a ng over him and they was blitzing both a gaps

Ill use Casey Stengel, Baseball saying, here.   Hitting is easy, you just hit em where they aint!

Similar thing here Coach.  Defense will always present "Bubbles" or Areas that they cant defend with numbers.  Since they have chosen to send 7 folks inside the tackles, they are vulnerable outside and just behind the vacating LB's.  Sounds simple enough right. The trick is to have plays in your Offensive repertoire to be able to attack those areas!  When you sit and really think about youth football, the vast majority of teams, 10U and under, are built to run Off Tackle and Sweep! 

In your case the FB can be used offset or as an H Back to set the Edge Block.  Another thing I suggest is using Motion to get the FB there OR to start your Sweep!  A Simple 3 yard Dump Pass to the TE can be very effective against teams who Blitz.   

I would also encourage the use of Down Blocks to seal the gaps! 

Just thinkin.  :)
 
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Re: 5-2 defense with 2 line backers blitzing both a gaps
« Reply #7 on: October 14, 2015, 08:55:00 PM »
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Re: 5-2 defense with 2 line backers blitzing both a gaps
« Reply #8 on: October 14, 2015, 09:00:53 PM »
Ill use Casey Stengel, Baseball saying, here.   Hitting is easy, you just hit em where they aint!

If he said it, he was quoting Wee Willie Keeler.
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Re: 5-2 defense with 2 line backers blitzing both a gaps
« Reply #10 on: October 14, 2015, 10:51:30 PM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7O7sBg-iJc&spfreload=10

1:46 to 2:56

"How do we attack a box where the middle of the field is left unattended?" seems to be a common theme on here. Or "how do we attack a defense where all the defenders are on the ground at the snap?" Or "how do we attack this 9 man box?"

The second the forward pass was allowed in football, it answered all these questions.

5-2 cover 2 w/ 7 on the LOS. So really it's a 7-0. Cover 2, so you run 2 verts up the seem w/ a drag underneath, every single play, until it's 30-0 or they stop blitzing.

If you insist on running it, ISO's off tackle should be open. Any kind of toss w/ a cross block & lead should work well.
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Re: 5-2 defense with 2 line backers blitzing both a gaps
« Reply #11 on: October 14, 2015, 11:35:24 PM »
"How do we attack a box where the middle of the field is left unattended?" seems to be a common theme on here. Or "how do we attack a defense where all the defenders are on the ground at the snap?" Or "how do we attack this 9 man box?"

The second the forward pass was allowed in football, it answered all these questions.

5-2 cover 2 w/ 7 on the LOS. So really it's a 7-0. Cover 2, so you run 2 verts up the seem w/ a drag underneath, every single play, until it's 30-0 or they stop blitzing.

If you insist on running it, ISO's off tackle should be open. Any kind of toss w/ a cross block & lead should work well.

I agree with you.   However, I see many Coaches who don't have the adjustments or plays necessary to overcome 7 defenders coming down hill!  More so, even if they do, its about execution! 

Case in Point.  I spent 2 weeks covering the Crack Block and its utmost importance to defeating superior (Size and Strength) DE/OSLB. Why? We weren't going to be able to run between the Tackles. Still did so to keep them honest but, 4 yards was a heroic effort!   

Practice looked good but, in game situations, it was either playing Paddy Cake or over running the Crack (too far inside)!   

Its Execution!  We failed to execute!   There is no magic pill that overcomes that! 

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Re: 5-2 defense with 2 line backers blitzing both a gaps
« Reply #12 on: October 15, 2015, 12:06:16 AM »
I agree with you.   However, I see many Coaches who don't have the adjustments or plays necessary to overcome 7 defenders coming down hill!  More so, even if they do, its about execution! 

Case in Point.  I spent 2 weeks covering the Crack Block and its utmost importance to defeating superior (Size and Strength) DE/OSLB. Why? We weren't going to be able to run between the Tackles. Still did so to keep them honest but, 4 yards was a heroic effort!   

Practice looked good but, in game situations, it was either playing Paddy Cake or over running the Crack (too far inside)!   

Its Execution!  We failed to execute!   There is no magic pill that overcomes that! 

 ;)

Did you motion into the crack? I ask cuz many coaches, myself included, teach when motion outside the emlos occurs, your 1st read is crack. In fact we have our corners yell crack.

I've found that crack blocks are much better w/ no motion, and if you set it up right, you just have the defender run right into it. The cracker barely has to move.

But ya, to your overall point, def have to execute it & have answers.
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Re: 5-2 defense with 2 line backers blitzing both a gaps
« Reply #13 on: October 16, 2015, 05:37:59 PM »
Toss sweep??

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Re: 5-2 defense with 2 line backers blitzing both a gaps
« Reply #14 on: May 25, 2016, 10:46:09 AM »
we faced a 5-2 defense with both inside linebackers blitzing both A gaps ---they had a ng,2 3 techs dt's and 1 5 tech de and 1 9 tech de on my te side and we a 2 back twins I-formation--how should we attack this defense if we have to play them in the playoffs because they gave us problems with those blitz up both a gaps ----were should we attack in the run game thanks

Coach can you draw this up and show the zone/man responsibilities in the undercoverage?