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Re: Hawkeyes using Mountjoy's offense?
« Reply #150 on: May 24, 2016, 01:24:18 PM »
If one want to dig into the prostyle section, you can find many discussions with Coach Mountjoy that go into detail about the ECO. The info that BMJ provided to this site is overwhelming in its depth. He seemed very generous in his willingness to share. Ooops, surf coach already said that.

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Re: Hawkeyes using Mountjoy's offense?
« Reply #151 on: May 24, 2016, 02:22:59 PM »
Coach Mountjoy is from the "old school" (Bear Bryant & Vince Lombardi type).  By his own admission he somewhat of a "curmudgeon", who isn't going to put up with a bunch of crap.  He prefers that anyone who wants to disagree with him do so face-to-face, man-to-man (he wouldn't say ANYTHING behind your back that he wouldn't say to your face & is MY kind of MAN)!

That having been said - he is kind-hearted, and generous almost to a fault.  He wouldn't THINK of taking a nickel  to help ANYONE who asks for his help!

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Re: Hawkeyes using Mountjoy's offense?
« Reply #152 on: May 24, 2016, 02:35:43 PM »
Coach Mountjoy is from the "old school" (Bear Bryant & Vince Lombardi type).  By his own admission he somewhat of a "curmudgeon", who isn't going to put up with a bunch of crap.  He prefers that anyone who wants to disagree with him do so face-to-face, man-to-man (he wouldn't say ANYTHING behind your back that he wouldn't say to your face & is MY kind of MAN)!

That having been said - he is kind-hearted, and generous almost to a fault.  He wouldn't THINK of taking a nickel  to help ANYONE who asks for his help!
Please don't think I was criticizing the man. I have nothing but respect for him. I wish I knew a tenth of what he knows. I don't think anyone else was criticizing him either. Anyone who followed him when he was still posting knows that he would explain in detail anything you wanted to discuss and also gave out his phone number publicly on numerous occasions. There is no need to defend the man here. I am sure that just about everybody here agrees with what you are saying whether they eye to eye with him or not.

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Re: Hawkeyes using Mountjoy's offense?
« Reply #153 on: May 24, 2016, 02:37:25 PM »
Belz

While I happen to agree with much of what you are saying about Coach Mountjoy, & like & respect him as well. I believe either he would find the last post rather "kiss-ass", that is unless you are he. In that case welcome back Bill! If not, no need for such platitudes.

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Re: Hawkeyes using Mountjoy's offense?
« Reply #154 on: May 24, 2016, 02:40:44 PM »
Again if you run only PRO I and will "only" run that, and refuse to evolve into an 11/12 personnel 2 tight team your a bad coach and you have failed yourself as well as your players. If you would like information about this offense PM me for BMJ's # or call me directly. I have put my film, name, youtube channel, and # on the site. Not here to argue about other threads and systems.

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Re: Hawkeyes using Mountjoy's offense?
« Reply #155 on: May 24, 2016, 02:44:50 PM »
Coach Mountjoy is from the "old school" (Bear Bryant & Vince Lombardi type).  By his own admission he somewhat of a "curmudgeon", who isn't going to put up with a bunch of crap.  He prefers that anyone who wants to disagree with him do so face-to-face, man-to-man (he wouldn't say ANYTHING behind your back that he wouldn't say to your face & is MY kind of MAN)!

That having been said - he is kind-hearted, and generous almost to a fault.  He wouldn't THINK of taking a nickel  to help ANYONE who asks for his help!

I get the whole face to face thing... but then why be on an internet forum? 

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Re: Hawkeyes using Mountjoy's offense?
« Reply #156 on: May 24, 2016, 03:34:46 PM »
Again if you run only PRO I and will "only" run that, and refuse to evolve into an 11/12 personnel 2 tight team your a bad coach and you have failed yourself as well as your players. If you would like information about this offense PM me for BMJ's # or call me directly. I have put my film, name, youtube channel, and # on the site. Not here to argue about other threads and systems.

Yep so next time I talk to these coaches that are in the Iowa Hall of Fame ,  I'm going to tell them that they are bad coaches and failed their players even though each one has won 3 or more stare titles,  produced several NFL and D 1 players, and go into the playoffs almost every year.

(Deceased) Ed Thomas - 292-84- win/ loss record
Pro I
Jerry Staton - 278-181- win /loss record
Pro I/ Maryland I
Jay Rosenboom- 235-44- win loss/ record
Pro I/power I

And these are just a few of Iowa great pro I coaches.
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Re: Hawkeyes using Mountjoy's offense?
« Reply #157 on: May 24, 2016, 03:45:07 PM »
Being a PRO I coach does not mean that you do not use personnel groupings. I have some of their playbooks in front of me. Are you saying that they "only" ran PRO I and never moved the fullback around?

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Re: Hawkeyes using Mountjoy's offense?
« Reply #158 on: May 24, 2016, 05:59:12 PM »
If you care to know the truth I will tell you.....

I used to compete in Brazilian Jiu jitsu tournaments everywhere, I had a very hard time placing in the medal rounds. At the time I was really being punished for my loose thinking and lack of focus on fundamentals during my conversation with CMJ. I began to notice that CMJ was extremely detailed. I mean I met the guy back in 09 or 10 and I remember on Jerry Campbell site he would actually type out the characters on the screen in perfect precision. He posted his number. I am a psycho path when it comes to winning, I want to win at everything, eating, shitting, sports you name it. After speaking with CMJ for just a couple of minutes I realized how much LIFE experience he had when it came to doing things right. I really really admired that and started using his structure in everything in life. By trade I am a software engineer and I do not teach, been burning the candle from both ends for about 10 years now. I have applied CMJ's theories to weight lifting, jiu jitsu, and my career. When I interview for an IT job I reverse interview the people hirring me! I ask them who is in charge, what are the SOP processes, and what is funny is that they hire me instantly for critiquing them not all the time but most of the time. I owe not just being a great football coach to CMJ but for improving my Jiu jitsu career, at age 37 I competed and got on the podium with either Gold,Silver, Bronze in 13 tournaments in 2 years! Just speaking with the guy my life changed! I dont really care how he comes across he reminds me very much of Trump, successful and the avg person just cant get their head around greatness. This is why we sound similar. I guess I am a follower in this regard but I never had a problem following greatness. RTR!!

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Re: Hawkeyes using Mountjoy's offense?
« Reply #159 on: May 24, 2016, 06:35:59 PM »
I watch this video everyday, over and over and over and over!!

I only teach 3 passes in my entire HS Offense, hitch, smoke pass and fade all from 3 step. I will rep this thousands of times before summer camp even starts. Not including PAP!

https://youtu.be/9jjf7m4GI8k

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Re: Hawkeyes using Mountjoy's offense?
« Reply #160 on: May 24, 2016, 07:51:24 PM »
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Re: Hawkeyes using Mountjoy's offense?
« Reply #161 on: May 24, 2016, 08:15:18 PM »
Belz

Take a breath, no one pulled Royce Gracie on you. I just got off the phone with Coach Mountjoy. We just talked for an hour & had some laughs. Your posts definitely mimicked his style, & to be honest I was hoping you were he. Being passionate about what we do is great, calling everyone who doesn't do what you an idiot is condescending.

BTW Coach Mountjoy agreed Iowa doesn't call it the Mountjoy Offense rather East Coast offense. Welcome aboard & you have certainly brought some life back into the board.

Joe
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Re: Hawkeyes using Mountjoy's offense?
« Reply #162 on: May 25, 2016, 10:16:23 AM »
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When you make a blanket statement, " If you are running Pro I only, you have failed as a coach. " There is no other way than to think, what a douchey thing to say. Then you come back and say it is not about the x's and o's, to be a good coach. I'm sure you are a good person and I will not attack you personally. Your choice of words have brought this crap to this point. I don't agree with any personal attacks, so take this however you will. Re- read your post and look at it from some others view points. Don't try and defend your words, that it a victim mentality. We don't coach victims, we coach perseverance and toughness. Chose your words to coach us up, not demean us. The coaches on this site, most coaches, are very excepting and are all about learning teaching. You could be a great asset to us coaches.
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Re: Hawkeyes using Mountjoy's offense?
« Reply #163 on: May 25, 2016, 10:31:12 AM »
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Re: Hawkeyes using Mountjoy's offense?
« Reply #164 on: May 25, 2016, 10:40:38 AM »
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