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Horizontally & Vertically Stretching the Coverages
« on: May 24, 2016, 07:32:00 PM »
Coaches,

Lets begin to discus the different ways you stretch the coverages in the 3 step game! How do you approach spring, summer and seasonal practices? What are the expectations of your passing game?
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Re: Horizontally & Vertically Stretching the Coverages
« Reply #1 on: May 24, 2016, 08:27:59 PM »
I will say this about Bill's style. Bill always included diagrams about the concepts that he was talking about. It made it very easy for inexperienced coaches to grasp what he was talking about. If you search through the ECO Pro style threads, anything in CAPS is from Bill. That would be extremely helpful if you are truly interested in helping others.

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Re: Horizontally & Vertically Stretching the Coverages
« Reply #2 on: May 24, 2016, 08:47:44 PM »
This is not Bill and please remember to carefully read I am asking about the coaches preperation! It's a discussion.

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Re: Horizontally & Vertically Stretching the Coverages
« Reply #3 on: May 24, 2016, 08:59:19 PM »
3 step against zone we run spacing. 3 step against man we run snag. We also run double ins with an inside vertical and an in with an inside vertical. Those handle pretty much any 3 step that we need. We teach all of our advantage routes along with our navigation tags. We teach Rule and our other backside tags. Past that we rep the crap out of it. We do a couple of 7 on 7s and if we can we work with our QBs by themselves. We mix our 3 step with our 5 step concepts. So if our 3 step isn't there we can reset.

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Re: Horizontally & Vertically Stretching the Coverages
« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2016, 08:51:54 AM »
Coaches,

Lets begin to discus the different ways you stretch the coverages in the 3 step game! How do you approach spring, summer and seasonal practices? What are the expectations of your passing game?

B

My players play Spring Sports in the Spring, sit on the couch eating Twinkees while watching Gilligans Island reruns in the Summer then frantically get ready to play football 3 weeks before the season begins on Labor Day.

My expectations are initially low and we throw the football at TON.  I have my money plays and really dont care about the particular coverage's....more about the matchups and can we protect the QB. Its a bit different each Season. Depends on the age group.
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Re: Horizontally & Vertically Stretching the Coverages
« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2016, 09:36:11 AM »
B

My players play Spring Sports in the Spring, sit on the couch eating Twinkees while watching Gilligans Island reruns in the Summer then frantically get ready to play football 3 weeks before the season begins on Labor Day.

My expectations are initially low and we throw the football at TON.  I have my money plays and really dont care about the particular coverage's....more about the matchups and can we protect the QB. Its a bit different each Season. Depends on the age group.

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Gilligans island? I think you maybe dating yourself. ;D


Really depends on what coverage we are seeing cover1-2-3-4. On our skinny post against cover 1, is the safety moving away? Then hit skinny. Is he playing deep middle zone? Hit underneath drag routes. This is 3 step from pistol, I guess 5-7 from under center. Work timing, accuracy, read, and the throw with qb's. Work route running, beat press, and catching with recievers. The work them together. If Change anything it will be wideout read on coverage and when to run post corner. This along with qb read.

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Re: Horizontally & Vertically Stretching the Coverages
« Reply #6 on: May 25, 2016, 09:43:40 AM »
Do you really see Cov 4? How many of you see the FS use a divider rule? Unless they are playing Cov 0 then the FS stays parked dead center over the center. So when we are on a hash that FS has a hard time stopping the post 

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Re: Horizontally & Vertically Stretching the Coverages
« Reply #7 on: May 25, 2016, 09:48:00 AM »
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Gilligans island? I think you maybe dating yourself. ;D





LOL...but at least everyone has seen it....once.  :)
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Re: Horizontally & Vertically Stretching the Coverages
« Reply #8 on: May 25, 2016, 10:03:17 AM »
Our 3 step game is small...we have 2, 60s and 1, 50... all with "up".

We dedicate 20 minutes a practice  (1 hour for each side of the ball) on pass skeleton. The qb's and receiver have 10 min of individual period prior to this.

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Re: Horizontally & Vertically Stretching the Coverages
« Reply #9 on: May 25, 2016, 10:17:32 AM »
I will say this about Bill's style. Bill always included diagrams about the concepts that he was talking about. It made it very easy for inexperienced coaches to grasp what he was talking about. If you search through the ECO Pro style threads, anything in CAPS is from Bill. That would be extremely helpful if you are truly interested in helping others.

This is not BMJ this is Coach Belz:

The #1  idea behind  Horizontally & Vertically Stretching the Coverages (as used by Sid Gillman, Don Coryell, Joe Gibbs, Bill Walsh, Bill Belichick, ETC.) IS:

"Spread the field horizontally and vertically with all 5 receivers; One-Back formations are a MUST in order to DO this"!!!!

IF you know HOW to use the protection in order to DO this (3 "free releases" & 2 "check releases") it is not hard to do.

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Re: Horizontally & Vertically Stretching the Coverages
« Reply #10 on: May 25, 2016, 10:18:50 AM »
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My players play Spring Sports in the Spring, sit on the couch eating Twinkees while watching Gilligans Island reruns in the Summer then frantically get ready to play football 3 weeks before the season begins on Labor Day.

My expectations are initially low and we throw the football at TON.  I have my money plays and really dont care about the particular coverage's....more about the matchups and can we protect the QB. Its a bit different each Season. Depends on the age group.

In the 3 step game what are your QB progressions and reads and how would you attack the base coverages like Cover 2,2m and 3?

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Re: Horizontally & Vertically Stretching the Coverages
« Reply #11 on: May 25, 2016, 12:12:44 PM »
I forgot stick. So it's spacing, snag, ins with vertical and stick. We use slide and half slide protection.

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Re: Horizontally & Vertically Stretching the Coverages
« Reply #12 on: May 25, 2016, 12:43:12 PM »
In the 3 step game what are your QB progressions and reads and how would you attack the base coverages like Cover 2,2m and 3?
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There are 2 progressions in my World.

Throw it to the guy I tell you too or run...in 3 seconds.

I run a TON of Check With Me stuff so I become the QB's eyes. Eventually if I am coaching an older age group we introduce Choice Routes with pre snap reading but that is it. I have my list of things to do vs certain fronts. 

I leave all the progressions up too you guys. My job is too keep the sokker / LAX / Baseball  fangs out of them and get them too your level ready to roll. 
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Re: Horizontally & Vertically Stretching the Coverages
« Reply #13 on: May 25, 2016, 04:52:17 PM »
Many of our concepts can be a 3 or 5 step concept depending on the coverage. We love to also use the Fast Screen  game to stretch the field.

Pure Quick Game (3-step)

Slant /Arrow
Double Slant
Wahoo (New one)

Could be 3 or 5

4verts
Stick
Snag
Smash

The real issue is over the last 20 or so years these concepts have developed.

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Re: Horizontally & Vertically Stretching the Coverages
« Reply #14 on: May 25, 2016, 04:55:42 PM »
Many of our concepts can be a 3 or 5 step concept depending on the coverage. We love to also use the Fast Screen  game to stretch the field.

Pure Quick Game (3-step)

Slant /Arrow
Double Slant
Wahoo (New one)

Could be 3 or 5

4verts
Stick
Snag
Smash

The real issue is over the last 20 or so years these concepts have developed.

Joe


Okay... I have to ask what "Wahoo" is...?