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Offline MosleyTheCat

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Plays for this formation
« on: September 05, 2014, 10:53:11 AM »
We play last season's champ this Saturday night. The run the DW on offense which I am not too worried about (Killer Bee), and their defense is pretty suspect too.  Here is what I expect to see against our base


                                                        R

  Z                                                    Q                H
                                   Y      T     G    C    G    T                                   X
                                E            T     G    G    T           E
                                     B                                  B         
       C                                                                                           C

                                                         S
I originally thought they were lining head up on the G/T, but the film I saw from near behind this morning showed the are more gapped. The team they were playing against had minimal splits, so it's likely they were shaded. We run with 2' splits, so I am going to assume they are gapped for this purpose.  The  Es go straight upfield 3 yards and box, while the Bs try to stone the Y and H.

Power and Counter should destroy them until they change; however, IZ is a nice play for us. If they were lined head up, IZ would be a breeze with the C and G doubling G's man, and there is no LB to worry about. We ran against that scout look last night, and we ate it up. If they are gapped, should I block IZ strictly by the numbers or another way. I worry about my Weak G getting his helmet across that guy in A gap on the backside if running Strong.

Our OZ is not our strong point yet. Our only other formation is Flood with Z lining up in the slot. They will likely cover this by moving the B out, although the first time they brought S down. Moved B out after that.  From Double (base) we run IZ, OZ, H-Around, Z-Around, Naked, X Screen, Throwback Screen to R off OZ, and Rollout off OZ. From Flood we add Bubble to Z (Joe's method), and two PA passes off IZ (Smash and Post/Wheel).

Suggestions outside off run Power/Counter all day?   :)
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Re: Plays for this formation
« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2014, 11:31:11 AM »
This is double red

Wide zone and power should be your plays

Counter and tight zone with H pulling will help.

Jump into trey and trey over add the H on wide zone
lettem go backside and kick out bsde on tigt zone...homeruns everywhere
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Re: Plays for this formation
« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2014, 03:51:56 PM »
Suppose I was running IZ Strong without any lead. My count gives me this. If I can get my C and WG to get their helmets across and get on those blocks, ST checks SG's man then climbs to B, my R should likely see something in B or either A. Looks good to me. I'll probably run it Weak as my SG is more with it.  Sorry my diagram is upside down.

                                                        R

  Z                                                    Q                H
                                   Y      T     G    C    G    T                                   X
                                3            1     0    1    2           4
                                     2                                  3         
       C                                                                                           C

                                                         S
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Re: Plays for this formation
« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2014, 05:41:53 PM »
Suppose I was running IZ Strong without any lead. My count gives me this. If I can get my C and WG to get their helmets across and get on those blocks, ST checks SG's man then climbs to B, my R should likely see something in B or either A. Looks good to me. I'll probably run it Weak as my SG is more with it.  Sorry my diagram is upside down.

                                                        R

  Z                                                    Q                H
                                   Y      T     G    C    G    T                                   X
                                3            1     0    1    2           4
                                     2                                  3         
       C                                                                                           C

                                                         S

You wanna try and get 3 combos in tight zone. Here youll only get 2 ish

Ide make a "power" call ( second level block gets you locked in double team)

Strong guard and tackle form a double.
backside tackle and H form a double

This will create a nice back door cut automatically essentially your down blocking if your backside and the lane will be too wide for the end to play on his own
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Re: Plays for this formation
« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2014, 05:53:25 PM »
OMG just run TOSS....kinda funny I was just talking about how I block our TOSS and how it killed defenses...on other thread. This might just be the best defense to kill with toss...toss left = everybody block right & pull right tackle/ mirror that for toss right

stupid GAM defense! I would thank the gods of the gridiron if I could see this defense week in week out

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Re: Plays for this formation
« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2014, 12:16:47 AM »
OMG just run TOSS.


Except that is not one of the plays we have installed yet. I listed the ones we did have ready. Perhaps I should run the Annexation of Puerto Rico. Unfortunately, we don't have that installed yet.  ;)
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Re: Plays for this formation
« Reply #6 on: September 06, 2014, 10:30:36 AM »
I missed the list of plays you have so I didnt know toss wasnt amongst the known

Did somebody here already ID this as the GAM defense..........cuz thats what it is


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Re: Plays for this formation
« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2014, 11:11:48 AM »
I missed the list of plays you have so I didnt know toss wasnt amongst the known

Did somebody here already ID this as the GAM defense..........cuz thats what it is

Couldve fooled me just looks like a 6-2 to me

But I can see why you think that... and i have a strong feeling youre wrong
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Re: Plays for this formation
« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2014, 11:30:05 AM »
Im jus sayin thats exactly how a GAM would line up, even so if it walks like a duck n quacks like one CROSS BLOCK THE EDGE RUN THE ROCK OFF TACKLE TELL THE OTHER TEAMS DC THROWS HIMSELF OUTATHE PRESS BOX! the off tackle cross will kill this D DOA!

as far as the toss goes, seriously it would take 3 minutes to install, my QB said oh you want this and ran it perfect 1st time??? I chit you not, QB opens to wing gently tosses it & then lead blocks, your H in listed formation, everybody blocks back to left, pull your left tackle playside, Y to 2, R to 3, and your H will run behind your pulling tackle until a defender can tackle him...

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Re: Plays for this formation
« Reply #9 on: September 07, 2014, 11:21:27 PM »
Couldve fooled me just looks like a 6-2 to me

But I can see why you think that... and i have a strong feeling youre wrong

When going to a spread type formation with four wide, the Bs move out over the slot receivers. I just noticed 3 of the 4 DLM are bear crawling.

We got postponed by T-Storms before even starting last night, so I should have until mid-next week to prepare. I saw a man-child show up last night with a wrist coach that was on their sideline in the film from Week One. Those that miss the first two weigh-in/photos must sit out the first two games, so I'm guessing we'll have to deal with him.

Suggestions as to whether I install the other formations (Trips(H next to TE), Swing (Trips but Z in slot with X), Double Flex (H flexed out), Flood Flex(ditto))  first or put in the Toss? Our next opponent is a train wreck, but I think we'll get these guys re-scheduled for the following week.
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