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At what age/grade do you guys finally start to punt?
« on: April 04, 2012, 09:27:40 AM »
I know many of the youth coaches here would rather go for it on 4th then punt to the other team's best player in open space, but sooner or later, you have to develop a punter, so what age or grade do you guys let the kicks fly?


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Re: At what age/grade do you guys finally start to punt?
« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2012, 09:37:11 AM »
I know many of the youth coaches here would rather go for it on 4th then punt to the other team's best player in open space
You don't have to punt it to their best player.  You can punt it out of bounds, you can rugby kick it, and keep in mind that fielding a punt (at the youth level) is often an overlooked aspect of the game. 

We did it at Jr. PeeWee (8-11s) and it was one of the best and most successful aspects of our team that I ever incorporated.

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Re: At what age/grade do you guys finally start to punt?
« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2012, 09:47:13 AM »
When we do punt, it is always out of bounds

The best part of punting?- Fake Punting
But to fake punt well- you must punt on occaision

Given that my personal teams have punted an average of 4-5 times a season
Start about age 9 IMO
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Re: At what age/grade do you guys finally start to punt?
« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2012, 09:54:37 AM »
Our D (jr. pee wee) and E (mitey-mite) levels didn't have a punt last year.  I'm really considering throwing in a quick kick at the mitey-mite level if all goes well.  It's something we can have in the toolbox in the event that we find ourselves pinned down.

Along the lines that Coach Cisar said--fake punting being nice, you have to show the punt in order to be able to fake (for the most part).  Just like the pass, 90%+ of the time you're going to be running but if you threaten pass it just keeps that defense honest.

I'm new at this, but it's my opinion that it will boil down to your personnel.  If you've got a kid that can boot the ball, install a punt...if not, then don't.
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Re: At what age/grade do you guys finally start to punt?
« Reply #4 on: April 04, 2012, 10:15:49 AM »
I'm new at this, but it's my opinion that it will boil down to your personnel.  If you've got a kid that can boot the ball, install a punt...if not, then don't.

That's exactly how I feel about it.  It's not necessarily the age level but whether or not you have someone that can put the ball well and place it away from their return man....whether that is out of bounds or just towards the sideline.

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Re: At what age/grade do you guys finally start to punt?
« Reply #5 on: April 04, 2012, 10:39:29 AM »
I've always taught that there are three ways to win a football game, offense, defense and the kicking game. The opponent must defend your fourth down strategy. You can punt, middle school ave. about 25yds., you can have a fake punt, run, pass or you can draw a team offsides with cadence and adjustments. I always like to make fourth down interesting. LOL


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Re: At what age/grade do you guys finally start to punt?
« Reply #6 on: April 04, 2012, 11:46:04 AM »
I know many of the youth coaches here would rather go for it on 4th than punt to the other team's best player in open space, but sooner or later, you have to develop a punter, so what age or grade do you guys let the kicks fly?
The answers are going to be affected by modified rules for certain ages.  Usually the ages where they simulate punting (or give you the option) are those where practically nobody would ever punt.  But then you get to rules where there's no rush and no runback, and those are a big encouragement to punting.

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Re: At what age/grade do you guys finally start to punt?
« Reply #7 on: April 04, 2012, 11:46:45 AM »
Punt is a great weapon, we uses dc punt and things are a lot easier stress wise using that
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Re: At what age/grade do you guys finally start to punt?
« Reply #8 on: April 04, 2012, 02:44:14 PM »
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Re: At what age/grade do you guys finally start to punt?
« Reply #9 on: April 04, 2012, 03:20:32 PM »
You don't have to punt it to their best player.  You can punt it out of bounds, you can rugby kick it, and keep in mind that fielding a punt (at the youth level) is often an overlooked aspect of the game. 

We did it at Jr. PeeWee (8-11s) and it was one of the best and most successful aspects of our team that I ever incorporated.

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Absolutely.  Kent and I learned a hard lesson one season.  We held punter tryouts and our best punter was an okay athlete. He played FB for us, but had no instincts for running the ball. When his protection broke down (pretty much always), he couldn't "athlete" his way out of the situation.

The next year, we taught our two Motion Backs (two best athletes) how to rugby punt out of bounds and ran "Toss Punt" when we needed to. No returns that year, no blocks and managed to convert a few first downs when the playside DE ran backward to cover the punt.
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Re: At what age/grade do you guys finally start to punt?
« Reply #10 on: April 04, 2012, 03:23:37 PM »
I guess it depends on down, distance, and field position.

We're punting now with our Mighty Mite (7 to 10 year old) team. In our league at this level, you are not allowed to rush the punter so our punter takes the snap, walks it back and kicks it.

We always tell the punter to kick it to the short side of the field and out of bounds. Even if we only get a 10 yard punt, its still 10 yards of field position that we pick up.

Hope this helps.
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Re: At what age/grade do you guys finally start to punt?
« Reply #11 on: April 06, 2012, 01:33:26 PM »
Our Mitey Mite team (8-9) punted last year. We had a kid who could really boot the ball and rarely had a return of more then a few yards.

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Re: At what age/grade do you guys finally start to punt?
« Reply #12 on: April 06, 2012, 03:04:01 PM »
in our 10-11s we punt no long snap ball is on the ground on the whistle pick it up and kick. You can rush after the whistle. We always punt to our own sideline whichever that may be. Only had to punt twice last year though either we got the 4th or turned it over on downs. I we were deep in our own territory or ahead by a lot we punted.

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Re: At what age/grade do you guys finally start to punt?
« Reply #13 on: April 07, 2012, 04:59:06 AM »
I know many of the youth coaches here would rather go for it on 4th then punt to the other team's best player in open space, but sooner or later, you have to develop a punter, so what age or grade do you guys let the kicks fly?


How about NEVER ???
I could write a long post about why ... But its been done ... So I will just link you to a HS Coach who never punts and his reasons why not ...

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/scorecasting/09/15/kelley.pulaski/index.html
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Re: At what age/grade do you guys finally start to punt?
« Reply #14 on: April 08, 2012, 09:52:07 AM »
3 day a week practices make punt practices really hard to fit into a schedule.

I find the time is better spent on extra point kicks which are worth 2 pts.

If I want to punt in the future, I plan to line up in my normal offensive shotgun set.  Force the defense not to put anyone back to field the kick, slide protect, and rugby style kick with the QB.  If he can kick it more than 15 yards in the air, I should gain another 10 - 15 yards off the roll. 

If they do put someone back, I will decide if I want to audible to a play with them a man down and try to pick up the first.