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Offense / Re: Quick Game Concepts & Teaching
« Last post by mahonz on Today at 09:25:24 AM »
Gumby and Mike,

Work is sending me out to Golden, Co for 2 weeks in June.  Any chance you guys could make time to talk shop with me.  I will spring for dinner/brews.

Sure

I am out of town from the 13th-18th.

Our Spring Bowl Game is on the 2nd or 3rd. It would be very cool if you could make that game.
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Offense / Re: Quick Game Concepts & Teaching
« Last post by gumby_in_co on Yesterday at 09:37:09 PM »
Gumby and Mike,

Work is sending me out to Golden, Co for 2 weeks in June.  Any chance you guys could make time to talk shop with me.  I will spring for dinner/brews.
Absolutely!
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Offense / Re: Quick Game Concepts & Teaching
« Last post by 32wedge on Yesterday at 06:59:26 PM »
Now I'm now even invited  :(

You can come too. 

I thought about finding Forest Fenn's treasure while out there but I can make time to talk football.
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Offense / Re: Quick Game Concepts & Teaching
« Last post by GP on Yesterday at 06:39:09 PM »
Now I'm now even invited  :(
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General Discussion / Re: Low Numbers/Small Roster - 5th grade
« Last post by CoachDP on Yesterday at 06:29:08 PM »
I think there can bein-season & immediately pre-season they are indeed time sappers, & for many players they're de-motivators.

Agree 100%, if you have no idea what youíre doing.

óDave
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Offense / Re: Quick Game Concepts & Teaching
« Last post by 32wedge on Yesterday at 05:58:18 PM »
Gumby and Mike,

Work is sending me out to Golden, Co for 2 weeks in June.  Any chance you guys could make time to talk shop with me.  I will spring for dinner/brews.
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Offense / Re: Quick Game Concepts & Teaching
« Last post by 32wedge on Yesterday at 05:51:45 PM »
There is another way!

We are essentially a UBSW team. There. I said it. Our 5-wide empty package is something we essentially spend 10-15 minutes per day on, sometimes less, sometimes more. Lots of return for the investment and makes us very hard to prepare for. A standing rule for our offense is that if the defense calls a timeout, we come out in something completely different.

10 route tree that we work on at the beginning of the season as conditioning.
5 receivers, each with a different code word.
Route/Receiver called from the sideline.
"GAP ON FAN" pass protection.
Ball out of the QB's hand in 2 seconds.

And you still get to keep your "bread and butter", UBSW.

That's what I am looking for!  Thanks.
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Offense / Re: Quick Game Concepts & Teaching
« Last post by gumby_in_co on Yesterday at 05:37:06 PM »

Not making excuses, just want to relate that QB coaching is not my highest priority.  I enjoyed watching the videos and learned a lot but I don't have the time to completely implement R4 and coach up a passing QB.  I will try and use as much of the info as is practical to better my 2 play quick passing game.

There is another way!

We are essentially a UBSW team. There. I said it. Our 5-wide empty package is something we essentially spend 10-15 minutes per day on, sometimes less, sometimes more. Lots of return for the investment and makes us very hard to prepare for. A standing rule for our offense is that if the defense calls a timeout, we come out in something completely different.

10 route tree that we work on at the beginning of the season as conditioning.
5 receivers, each with a different code word.
Route/Receiver called from the sideline.
"GAP ON FAN" pass protection.
Ball out of the QB's hand in 2 seconds.

And you still get to keep your "bread and butter", UBSW.
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Offense / Re: Quick Game Concepts & Teaching
« Last post by GP on Yesterday at 04:42:08 PM »
Wedge - my example was simply to show you how it works - would be the exact same against any 1 high look (eg the 10 man box you described which I assume means the corners are now in the box).

My point wasn't that you should always throw vs Cover 3 or that passing game must be your #1 priority. Just trying to illustrate some of the many ways "throw it to who I tell you" breaks down  and how R4 creates a simple process for your QB to make the right decision within your system.

Also, to beat better teams, you usually have to be at least proficient in throwing the ball and you should be able to do that against a 9 or 10 or 11 man box. R4 helps give you and your QB confidence in doing so.

As far as your comments re talent - in 2015, our semi-final opponent had two kids who are now rising Juniors each with multiple D1 offers (from Power 5 schools). One is the highest rated RB in the region - will be an ESPN 300 kid (Top 200 on 247 and rising - was JUST the top rated RB at a camp over another kid who is in the Top 150). Neither of them were even their best player! They had another RB who was the best kid in the whole league that year.

Conversely, not one kid from our team that year has a college offer on any level. On top of that, we lost our starting QB / best player for the year the prior week in practice and our starting RB went down the first play of that game & didn't return. We beat them 26-0 and had just recovered a sack fumble on their 10 with 3 mins to go when the zebras called the game.

Point being, don't get too caught up in or intimidated by your opponents' talent level. Competing w that team starts with KNOWING you can and will.
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Offense / Re: Quick Game Concepts & Teaching
« Last post by 32wedge on Yesterday at 04:03:58 PM »

Let's use 16 Pass from the UBSW as an example - both TEs running Seams. And let's say you're facing Cov 3.



If 3 defenders are outside the box playing pass coverage, I have no reason to pass the ball.  We are very comfortable running against 8 man fronts.  That's normal for us.  The 2 teams (GW Danville and Halifax County) bring 9, 10 and 11 up into the line and that gives us a lot of trouble.  We can burn them with 16 Pass once maybe even twice but not enough to compete. 

I intend to use more open formations to spread them out.  I also need to be able to get the ball out instantly from tight and spread formations.  Not a lot of passing, but enough to make them respect it.

We had 19 kids last season (7th and 8th graders/did not cut anyone).  The rec league that feeds us hasn't won a game since I've been there.  Our high school varsity has 6 wins from 2010 until now.  The only real good thing about it is they were desperate enough to let a little league coach from Tennessee come in take over their middle school team.

That GW Danville team had 90+ 8th graders try out for the team that played us.  They will add to their list of NFL Alumni next week when Tremaine and Terrell Edmunds get drafted.  We may never compete with that team but I am going to keep trying.

Not making excuses, just want to relate that QB coaching is not my highest priority.  I enjoyed watching the videos and learned a lot but I don't have the time to completely implement R4 and coach up a passing QB.  I will try and use as much of the info as is practical to better my 2 play quick passing game.



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