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T Style Football / Re: Slot-T YouTube Channel.
« Last post by Milehighmagoo on Today at 02:39:45 AM »
I talked our OC into dabbling with the 200 series. We're primarily a t formation team. Here are my thoughts:
-bread and butter 234/236 is exactly that. Worked flawlesly the first time we tried it. We were vs 2nd team defense and it would have been multiple long tds. In a game it hasn't opened up long runs but it's almost a guaranteed 4 yrs every time.
- We found success running it as it's drawn up. But shift your qg over to the string side and wow you get some mismatches. Most youth coaches don't adjust to this. And they can't reach the QB or RB fast enough from the weaksidr.
-the slot t plays are pretty vanilla. And I say that as a compliment. They work. And if you live being creative, there is a ton of room for that.
- The reason why it's hard to defend in youth is because the offense isn't too advanced to run, but any defense you'd run to stop the slot t is too advanced for youth. If course some coach who thinks he's the next Dick Labeau will chime in now and say otherwise. I'm sure there are exceptions. The reason why it's difficult for a defense is because at our level (10 yo), your telling defense a position and to flow to the ball. What happens if you can't find the ball? Most 10 year olds stop right where they are and search. That's when it happens. Your MLB found the ball, but that's because the 3 back is 3 yards out if the whole and running right by that MLB. In other words, by the time the ball is located its too late.
-You do require a good to great ST. Also helps to have a decent SG. Even better if you have a dependable SE. But at the very least you need a good ST. In its simplest form any QB will do. Get a QB that is a magician with his fakes and this offense explodes. We have a good QB as in great foot work and smart. Not the best magician but good enough. It's probably the one area we could develope a little more.
- we haven't flipped yet. Like I said we don't run this but a handful of times. We just run it A right. It's effective just that way but again, could be much better.
-must run 2 back in motion. We don't, but I wish we would. If we were more advanced it might bite us. But 234/236 hits so fast that the OLB is cement footed by the time we get to his level anyways. But the motion would ordinarily hold him.

That's all for now. Good luck to anyone running this. I've devoted a couple years into studying this offense and the great Texas high school coaches running it. Look forward to continuing to learn.
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General Discussion / Re: Platoon Problems
« Last post by jvcoach on Today at 01:02:10 AM »
The complaints came from parents speaking on the behalf of their kids which is why I am not taking it too seriously.  The kids hound me during games to put them in and I remind them why we are platooning.  I have also asked them who I should take play time away from so they can have more.  They usually stop at that point.
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General Discussion / Re: Platoon Problems
« Last post by Seabass on Today at 12:35:06 AM »
I don't have a problem with platooning but I think kids should play both ways. I understand that some kids really prefer one side of the ball or the other. Some even have a really clear strength on one side. I still think our job is to develop players.

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General Discussion / Re: Platoon Problems
« Last post by gumby_in_co on Today at 12:20:16 AM »
First of all, are kids upset and threatening to quit, or are parents upset and threatening to pull their kids?

If they are threatening, I wouldn't take it seriously. You're halfway through the season with no where else to go. If they quit, they go to zero playing time. Once they hit 6th grade/12U, the every down guys will start to appreciate platooning. At that age, playing every down starts to hurt.

I don't know about cutting them loose. I've never coached in a league that gave coaches the option of kicking a kid off the team. That's usually a board decision. However, I personally wouldn't bend over backward to keep them around. Team first. I'm not ever going to debate the best football strategy or tactic with an 11 year old.
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General Defense Discussion / Re: 4-4 Defense and Man to Man
« Last post by Dusty Ol Fart on Yesterday at 11:44:28 PM »
Only a Stubborn man refuses to play 4-2-5 out of the 4-4 when it is clearly the best option against a team who Spreads to Throw!  That being said, if they Spread to Run, Make em Throw! 

Sounds ridiculous but, if they are throwing to Run (Ala West Coast) Cover it as such, 4-2-5!  Make sure that OT cant release to block the Screens!  At the Youth Level teach them to Read (Key) the OT High Hat Low Hat.  High Hat Pass!  Low Hat Run!  Low Hat play the Alley, High Hat Pass (No one behind you)! I also Like the Inverted Coverage, Tampa 2, Zone coverage,  Keep the ball in front of the Defense. Force the QB to put the ball in ever shrinking Windows!   

At the Youth Level and even High School, High and Low Hat works!  :)
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General Discussion / Platoon Problems
« Last post by jvcoach on Yesterday at 11:36:45 PM »
For once I actually have the luxury to platoon players. I have enough kids at a high enough ability to just play them one way. I have communicated to my players that my goal is to play as many kids as possible and keep them as fresh as possible to benefit the team.  The problem is I have kids that have been used to playing every down of a game now getting upset that they're not getting enough game time. On the flip side I have kids that are stoked because they're actually getting in games. 

Have you ever had to deal with this, and how did it turn out ?  A couple have threatened to quit but I don't think they are really  serious.  This kind of selfish attitude drives me nuts!  I know many on the boards would say cut them loose, but i am hoping that they will seet the light.
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The greatest 20 yards ever gained in the History of Beast.

Willoughby Fisher Rothrock the 3rd also know to his teammates and coaches simply as Fish. He has played Center for us for years....both Spring and Fall.

He makes all the Line calls, rarely plays any Defense, is a superior blocker, has maybe had a half dozen bad snaps out of 100's and 100's. Never misses practice. Never misses a game. Rarely speaks. Teammates love him and respect how important he is to the Team. He has never run a football except as a Scout FB in practice on rare occasion....until Saturday.

First and 10 on the opponents 20. Late in the 4th Q. OC has the Center and TE switch positions. TE is one of our backup Centers. Center probably thinks he might be getting a pass.  Nope....even better. The OC then has the RB and TE switch positions placing our Center at RB. I cant remember if he has ever taken a Beast snap even for fun.

And then the greatest 20 yards ever gained in the History of Beast happens. It was a special moment for our Team, the fans and the Fish.  8)

https://youtu.be/tO9_gx1APl4



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General Offense Discussion / Re: Anyone ever ran "Stupid Sweep"?
« Last post by gumby_in_co on Yesterday at 10:10:10 PM »
Lol. Right? Tho tbf to them, we lined up really fast & snapped the ball on 1st sound.

Our guys are getting really good at lining up & snapping before the D has tine to adjust.

That's our "dance" call. We shift from 5 wide empty to Beast and vice versa.
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Rules of the Game / Re: Pay to play
« Last post by gumby_in_co on Yesterday at 10:07:08 PM »
So, I support most of the things people mention, however what I don't like are the scholarships to above average players.  I seldom see people pay for players that can't afford (although I know it happens), but every year, I hear first hand how parents are pleased their sons received a "scholarship" to play.  These kids always turn out to be star players.  In my opinion, it is buying talent.  There are
 no good intentions here - it is strictly to buy talent in order to win.


Here's a link to our scholarship page. http://arvadafootball.com/Page.asp?n=118479&org=M.WW.ARVADAFOOTBALL.COM

I'm not on that board, but it looks legit to me. I was also chair of the scholarship committee for my son's hockey club. We never denied a scholarship in the 4 years I was chair, but if someone didn't need it, we would have denied it.

As far as my personally paying for kids . . . I've paid for the best player on the team as well as the worst. Also, once they're on our team, they can't legally go anywhere else in our league, so it's not like an incentive to come to us or stay with us.
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Rules of the Game / Re: Pay to play
« Last post by Threepwood on Yesterday at 09:46:26 PM »
So, I support most of the things people mention, however what I don't like are the scholarships to above average players.  I seldom see people pay for players that can't afford (although I know it happens), but every year, I hear first hand how parents are pleased their sons received a "scholarship" to play.  These kids always turn out to be star players.  In my opinion, it is buying talent.  There are
 no good intentions here - it is strictly to buy talent in order to win.

 
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