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General Discussion / Re: Drawn Up Plays vs Reality
« Last post by jrk5150 on Today at 11:33:28 AM »
I love when a coach draws up a play and a defender blows it up in practice. Then the header or OC gets mad and say something along the lines of "he won't be there" or "they won't defend it like that". Oh really? Well why not because that way of defending it just crushed it so why would they line or adjust to something that won't crush it. Defenses are smart too. They don't line up to make it easy. Well, at least good ones don't. Too many youth coaches draw up plays with one defensive set in mind and have no answer for what to do when the defense doesn't make it easy.

Not exactly what you're referencing here, but "practice heroes" used to bother me; they're the ones who do unsound things because they know the play and blow it up.

As I've gotten better as a coach, they bother me less. In fact, sometimes I encourage it, to put additional pressure on the offense. That said, I might tell an individual player to back off if I'm trying to get something done and he's going off the reservation stopping it. Happens a lot with DE's - when they know what's coming, they'll do stupid sh*t you will rarely see in a game and stuff the play. If I saw that in a game, I'd run a play to burn his ass, but I'm trying to work these other plays, so stay the f*ck out there where you belong, LOL.

I read about what you're referencing all the time on here.  Funny enough, I have somewhat the opposite experience.  There are some things we do that I didn't think we'd get away with, but I discovered in practice we could.  Like flipping our line.  When we had a 30 man team, we'd frequently scrimmage competitively - break the kids up somewhat evenly, and get after it.  The DC would run the D, I'd run the O. Let's just say, towards the end of his time with our team, he was motivated to stop the O.  And yet, as we scrimmaged, I realized he wasn't picking up the line flip. I'm thinking wait a second - he's representative of the quality of coaching we face, and he knows we pretty much exclusively run to the strong side, yet he's not doing anything to stop it.  And that's played out over the years.  If the other team notices, they don't do anything to adjust.  Now I have plays to go weak if needed, but at that time, I didn't.  And never bothered putting them in after realizing nobody was noticing.
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General Discussion / Re: Drawn Up Plays vs Reality
« Last post by mahonz on Today at 11:20:33 AM »
I love when a coach draws up a play and a defender blows it up in practice. Then the header or OC gets mad and say something along the lines of "he won't be there" or "they won't defend it like that". Oh really? Well why not because that way of defending it just crushed it so why would they line or adjust to something that won't crush it. Defenses are smart too. They don't line up to make it easy. Well, at least good ones don't. Too many youth coaches draw up plays with one defensive set in mind and have no answer for what to do when the defense doesn't make it easy.

Kinda like when you play a really bad opponent and cant figure out what systems they are running because their isnt one.
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General Discussion / Re: Drawn Up Plays vs Reality
« Last post by PSLCOACHROB on Today at 10:52:15 AM »
I love when a coach draws up a play and a defender blows it up in practice. Then the header or OC gets mad and say something along the lines of "he won't be there" or "they won't defend it like that". Oh really? Well why not because that way of defending it just crushed it so why would they line or adjust to something that won't crush it. Defenses are smart too. They don't line up to make it easy. Well, at least good ones don't. Too many youth coaches draw up plays with one defensive set in mind and have no answer for what to do when the defense doesn't make it easy.
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General Discussion / Re: Drawn Up Plays vs Reality
« Last post by PSLCOACHROB on Today at 10:48:20 AM »
You may be misinterpreting the concept of "coach the bottom of your roster" for "ignore your studs", but they are totally different.  There are some coaches that focus only on their studs and coach them to the detriment of the bottom part of their roster.  Then, they wonder why they have attrition and a lack of wins.

By all means, coach your studs.  Coach everyone to be the best that they can be, but understand that you will likely have to spend more time on the bottom of the roster because they have a far bigger gap between their current state and their best.
Most here believe that with coaching you can turn a player ranked at a 4(in a 1-10 rating scale) into a 6 or 7 pretty consistently(as long as you don't ask too much of them...get them good at a few things) and that you can turn an 8 into a 9 but with much more effort. I believe that but it doesn't mean I am not trying to turn that 8 into a 10. To exclude either is a bad idea. You win when the whole team executes well.
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General Offense Discussion / Re: Coaching the slant and go (sluggo)
« Last post by CoachMattC on Today at 10:04:10 AM »
Do you guys have the kids count out the steps in their head?

I feel like there is a lot of speed lost from the 45 degrees angle cut to the 90 degrees cut towards the "Go" landmark, so much so that it looks sloppy and slow?

We used this route a lot. The first key to getting it right, IMO is their feet.

If they always line up with the inside foot set forward, and take the first step with the outside foot at the angle Joe describes, things will get easier.

Doing this will fix the sloppy break because you can show them that stepping correctly with the 1st step means their hips will be open on the third step to allow the break step with the inside foot (4th step) to get vertical.

Watch #4 at the bottom of the screen at the 1:23 mark below. The break isn't as explosive or urgent as I would like but the footwork is pretty close and you can see how it makes the timing really work.

https://vimeo.com/154624607

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General Offense Discussion / Re: Making BIG positions sexy (Oline)
« Last post by ZACH on Today at 10:01:54 AM »
The personality of the coach wins the kids

Ive had ok to bad personalities coaching wrs and backs and they all wanted to be lineman bc of me and my assistant

Other teams its the opposite

Just my take

We also had an all lineman personell package which helped...kinda
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General Discussion / Re: Drawn Up Plays vs Reality
« Last post by patriotsfatboy1 on Today at 08:43:56 AM »
You almost never hear anybody talking of coaching the stud. Most of the time, it is leave the stud alone and coach everybody else.

You may be misinterpreting the concept of "coach the bottom of your roster" for "ignore your studs", but they are totally different.  There are some coaches that focus only on their studs and coach them to the detriment of the bottom part of their roster.  Then, they wonder why they have attrition and a lack of wins.

By all means, coach your studs.  Coach everyone to be the best that they can be, but understand that you will likely have to spend more time on the bottom of the roster because they have a far bigger gap between their current state and their best. 
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General Offense Discussion / Re: Bubble Screen and the OL
« Last post by parone on Today at 08:20:52 AM »
are you saying to run SW plays like power out of spread formation?

oddly, the plays you describe were almost the exact plays we had using this spread formation-we had slant to the solo, bubble screen, and qb weak keeper.

we didn't use it no huddle, but that would have been an excellent idea.

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General Offense Discussion / Re: Coaching the slant and go (sluggo)
« Last post by MHcoach on Today at 08:17:04 AM »
Do you guys have the kids count out the steps in their head?When we teach Slant we place cones for them to follow

I feel like there is a lot of speed lost from the 45 degrees angle cut to the 90 degrees cut towards the "Go" landmark, so much so that it looks sloppy and slow?
I quite agree, since we never run a Slant at 45 degrees. We teach a Slant at approximately 60 degrees or 30 depending on how you look at it. That is another matter. If you read my first post here, the Head, Hands & feet have to work together.

Joe
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Coach Cianflone Systems / Re: Spring Game
« Last post by PSLCOACHROB on Today at 06:51:45 AM »
Our Offensive line promises to be very good. Our TB rushed for 1100 yds last year & is even better this year. People forget we avg'd 35 points a game last season & we return 10 of 11. We started 9 returners in the Spring game.

Defensively is the big change. They had 63 plays for 210 yds, that included a 75yd run & a 35 yd run.

Our QB really had a great night. Considering it was windy, every pass was on the money. The Screen game drew oohs &
 ah's from the crowd. The back up QB is 5'6" & 130 lbs. He is the one with that sick move on Power Read.

Our issue will depth.

Joe

I know you have to be happy about the defense. An overhaul was needed. When did Hagerty start running the sw? Everybody wants to be Apopka without doing what Apopka does so well.
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