Recent Posts

Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
1
General Defense Discussion / Re: Little Help
« Last post by blockandtackle on Today at 12:15:33 AM »

Our problems are myriad, not being able to practice team defense is just one of them.  We've worked open field tackling every padded practice and we are still not very good at it.  I'm sure it's how we are/aren't coaching the kids.

The last two weeks we've been beaten off tackle but now come the sweep teams.  I have always loved the 3-5 and know how to coach it.  I think we'll be moving to it against the next two opponents.

What do your open field tackling drills look like?

Are you doing half line drills to practice defense, since you can't go full team?

Are you doing team pursuit drills to teach them which hip to aim for and how to get to the ball at an angle (hard to do with 7 year olds)?

Do you have a force player on the edge to stop the sweep?

Have you tried coaching them so they know how to pursue, with a force player setting the edge and an alley player finishing things off over the top?

I don't know the Killer Bee.  Never ran it.  I guess it's similar to a 4-3 Quarters or Cov. 2 defense, from what I've read on it.

I know the WT6, but not Cisar's version.  The DTs and Des should both be in pretty good position to stop the sweep, especially if you can teach the DEs how to contain, specially if you have your best athlete at FS to run the alley and clean up so teams can't score at will.

If you know the 3-5 and know how to teach it, go with that, but if you're already terrible at the WT6, I wouldn't expect to magically become better in a defense you install in a week that's entirely new to the kid.
2
General Discussion / Re: Dont Block... Just Hit
« Last post by CoachDP on Yesterday at 11:49:42 PM »
The problem with this statement is that most Youth Players do not have the core strength to get in a decent, balanced, 3 point stance and Fire Off.  You can choose to fight a crappy 3 point stance for hours in practice, or, you can allow a more athletic 2 point stance and move on to more productive stuff like who and how to block.

A strong core can be hard to find in high school players, as well.  Especially offensive linemen. 

--Dave
3
General Discussion / Re: Dont Block... Just Hit
« Last post by CoachDP on Yesterday at 11:37:38 PM »
It seems to me that the problem isn't that your players are in a 3 point stance but that they are in a crappy 3 point stance. Done correctly a 3 point is always going to be faster firing out than a 2 point.  Now if you are a pass heavy team a two point might make more sense but most youth teams are run first.

With the exception of my 2016 foray into the Spread, we have never been a passing team.  But we have been a 2-point stance team for most of the past decade.  We've always been faster playing out of a 2-point stance.  The 2-point stance with a dropped instep gives an offensive lineman an advantage that a 3-point stance can't.  It turns the hips inward towards the Center.  As a result of turning the hips, we can downblock faster on the playside, pull faster on the backside and Wedge faster.  Not only can't you turn in your hips while in a 3-point stance, the first thing an offensive lineman does when the ball is snapped is get out of the 3-point stance.  So why get in it?

--Dave
4
General Discussion / Re: Dont Block... Just Hit
« Last post by Dusty Ol Fart on Yesterday at 11:26:54 PM »
It seems to me that the problem isn't that your players are in a 3 point stance but that they are in a crappy 3 point stance. Done correctly a 3 point is always going to be faster firing out than a 2 point.  Now if you are a pass heavy team a two point might make more sense but most youth teams are run first.

The problem with this statement is that most Youth Players do not have the core strength to get in a decent, balanced, 3 point stance and Fire Off.  You can choose to fight a crappy 3 point stance for hours in practice, or, you can allow a more athletic 2 point stance and move on to more productive stuff like who and how to block. 

jmho
5
General Discussion / Re: Dont Block... Just Hit
« Last post by Rockets11 on Yesterday at 10:33:20 PM »
I have tried 2 point with our guys but the HC insists on 3 point stances. I feel we are too slow out of 3 and I feel our guys can't see who to block as well out of a 3. But a crappy 3 point stance is a real stance I guess.

It seems to me that the problem isn't that your players are in a 3 point stance but that they are in a crappy 3 point stance. Done correctly a 3 point is always going to be faster firing out than a 2 point.  Now if you are a pass heavy team a two point might make more sense but most youth teams are run first.
6
General Discussion / Re: Dont Block... Just Hit
« Last post by CoachDP on Yesterday at 10:22:37 PM »
Is the blocking style described used mainly with the foot-to-foot of a Double Wing offense? Is this something that could be adapted for use with much wider splits?

After coming up with this approach to blocking, the only other offense I've coached was the Spread in 2016 and had hands-blocking foisted upon me.  I would have loved to use X-Men while coaching the Spread run-game.  But like everything else, our scheme was dictated by the Varsity header.

I think it would work for any run-based offense because the success of the run game is based on firing off the LOS, engaging a defender and driving them backwards.  If you're interested in hurting your opponent as well, it's an added bonus. It works for us because it coincides with our emphasis on physicality, as well as running the Double Wing, which is simply football in a phone booth.

I don't think it would work for a Spread-based offense where offensive lines employ kick-slides (backwards blocking) and reach/extension to be able to assist the defensive line into running hoops, so that a pocket is formed for the QB.  We are not trying to build a pocket (yet we've thrown 5 touchdown passes this year in our 4 games).

--Dave
7
General Discussion / Re: Dont Block... Just Hit
« Last post by bdjackson on Yesterday at 08:14:17 PM »
Never tried it but I would imagine it could work. Dave may be able to chime in as he has more experience. Honestly Iíd rather use my elbows to control someone than my hands. Hurts them way more and itís close quarters so I can get some really good shots. Kind of like what they teach in CQC, if they get in tight throw a punch and follow with the elbow. Itís right there and deadly.

-Brian
8
Running Game and Rule Blocking / Re: Improving second level blocking
« Last post by Bob Goodman on Yesterday at 07:59:01 PM »
That would be me.  Because if your linemen (your worst players) are good enough to block my Linebackers (my best players), then I'm not going to win anyway.  But which youth team has Linemen who are better than an opponent's Linebackers?

And if an opponent's Linebackers simply aren't moving then that's bad coaching, and I'm not going to worry about scheming against a poorly-coached team.

--Dave
But most of us aren't playing against your team!
9
General Defense Discussion / Re: Little Help
« Last post by Wing-n-It on Yesterday at 07:30:14 PM »
"Spill and Kill" is a 5 minute teach and can produce several losses.  It would drive me nuts to try and teach anything else.   :D
I don't think I can teach anything else. Its easy and effective, and I have been coaching it too long
10
General Defense Discussion / Re: Little Help
« Last post by DumCoach on Yesterday at 05:49:34 PM »
We try to "spill" every play to the outside.

I have always tried to clog the center using my pawns then put my best defenders, Mike DE's, and corners, in position to trap the runner on the outside and either he cuts back (killed by mike) ran out of bounds (sideline is undefeated with tackles) or ties to cut it up (Corner and DE converge and most likely Mike as well, for a tackle).

So we use the spill and kill. Its not the best, its just what works for me as I can teach it

"Spill and Kill" is a 5 minute teach and can produce several losses.  It would drive me nuts to try and teach anything else.   :D
Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10