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Double Wing Football / Re: Murphy Shotgun DW flip the line?
« Last post by CoachDP on Today at 05:57:08 PM »
Keep focusing on speed and never stop, don't chase, just keep going as defenders tend to avoid them and when that happens your back is free to make a play.

Great advice, this. ^. Double Wingers need to really understand what this means.

--Dave
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General Defense Discussion / Re: Position-less Defense
« Last post by CoachDP on Today at 05:49:34 PM »
The more I think about a "positionless" 12u defense, the more I assume you'd just be in man coverage running something like a GAM or 2LD with containing DEs and an emphasis on pursuit and individual matchups, which might not be a bad approach with young kids.

That's very close to the way we did things with our defensive approach, our Invisible Offense concepts, going with the snap, playing on the opponent's side of the LOS, our outside-to-in contain and an emphasis on 11-to-1 pursuit.  Regardless of "position," the positions were pretty much interchangeable as their responsibilities were mostly the same.  We weren't trying to copy a particular defensive scheme but install a particular mindset and philosophy.

--Dave
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Double Wing Football / Re: Murphy Shotgun DW flip the line?
« Last post by Coach Hot Rod on Today at 05:39:31 PM »
I do not believe the he flips his line as I gather he has the talent across the board to not have to do so.  That said, we did this with no problem at the 12U level last year.  The main reason is we only had a couple that could really pull with authority so wanted to bring that as much as possible.  As was stated you can use any common DW blocking scheme that suits your kids such as TKO. 

All that said, our kids grasped his blocking rules pretty easily which Murphy simplifies as follows:
1) Has a Coach of the Play at the point of attack, i.e. 4 man on Power is the Right Tackle.  Trojan is the 6 man (TE) so the playside WB is the doubler.
2) Man immediate to his outside is the doubler that is he is forcing the double team with the Right Tackle
3) Everyone else blocks On to Down until you hit something

Only other words of wisdom is you have to keep working pulling drills with your pullers.  Do not give up on it and use Murphy's full speed mentality.  Don't be overly concerned if they don't hit the right defender or hit any defender at all.  Just keep working to get them there ensuring they never turn their shoulders to chase anyone.  Just keep going full speed.  This is hard  as a coach to overcome but stay the course.  You will be amazed as they will start to get there with authority and will start hitting the right people.  Keep focusing on speed and never stop, don't chase, just keep going as defenders tend to avoid them and when that happens your back is free to make a play.
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General Defense Discussion / Re: Position-less Defense
« Last post by Dusty Ol Fart on Today at 05:13:54 PM »
I wasn't intending to give "Flack".

Information is Great. Knowledge makes us all better!  In fact, I believe I said that.  I was merely attempting to point out a potential Pitfalls based on some of my own experiences.  I had to skin my knees a few times....   :D

     
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General Defense Discussion / Re: Position-less Defense
« Last post by blockandtackle on Today at 04:19:25 PM »
I'm not sure why people are giving the OP flack for asking the question.  It's not like he said he wanted to run the Iowa St. defense with 12u.

I don't know this stuff well enough to explain it, let enough coach it, but if OP can find some good sources and figure out a way to strip that down and teach it to 12u, more power to him.

The more I think about a "positionless" 12u defense, the more I assume you'd just be in man coverage running something like a GAM or 2LD with containing DEs and an emphasis on pursuit and individual matchups, which might not be a bad approach with young kids.
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General Discussion / Re: Questions
« Last post by PSLCOACHROB on Today at 03:24:20 PM »
I never, even against the insanely fast teams from Miami, had a kid chase us down from the backside. Reason being we ran chaser drills and coached the back up to hit the hole fast. There are a few things you can do though. A block tag to take care of that end (fan)can work as long as the guy inside him isn't left free because of it, say a 4 tech. Then you can wrong way pull the guard or blocking back for a nice little surprise to the de. Again, just be sure that who ever you use that for has his front line assignments covered. Having the guard pull left and blast that end should slow him down. Hopefully you have a guard who likes to slobberknocker people because he will have fun hitting that guy when he least expects it. Then you can run counters at the chasing de. That is probably the easiest solution as you should alread have 43 in. In the end, I would really stress chaser drills.
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General Discussion / Re: Dinner
« Last post by CoachDP on Today at 02:57:55 PM »
Received a text today from another player at EWHS asking me if I could come see him in the school play, "Shrek, The Musical."  I asked him who he was playing and he said, "Lord Farquar, the antagonist."  I asked if he was a bad man.  He said yes.  I asked him if his parents knew he was playing a bad man.  He said, "No.  I broke your rule and did shenanigans."  (I had three rules for the players: No shenanigans, no hijinks and no tomfoolery.)  So it looks like I'll be going to see him in the school play this Saturday night.

--Dave
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General Defense Discussion / Re: Position-less Defense
« Last post by Dusty Ol Fart on Today at 01:53:39 PM »
Just putting this out there for consumption.

There is so much information available regarding schemes and X's and O's out there. A lot is quite valid, some, not so much.  Having the information and educating oneself is a great thing.  However, for many of us JFL coaches in general, there are just some things we simply cannot apply.   Many factors effect this.  Time, Staff (size and knowledge), Attendance etc

However, beyond our capacity as a coach to TEACH them, our first objective is to understand how our Jimmy's and Joe's fit in with the intended X's and O's.  Top Down engineering (X's and O's) rarely works as efficiently as Ground Up (Jimmy's and Joe's).  Feed them as much as they can handle collectively, then see how or where your "Studs" can go further still. 

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General Defense Discussion / Re: Position-less Defense
« Last post by blockandtackle on Today at 11:13:23 AM »
Does anyone have any more info on the position-less defense?  It's sparked my interest from it from reading about it. 

https://matchquarters.com/

I think this is a bit of a misnomer, as I've dug into it.

I'm not an expert, but the way most teams use it, it usually amounts to a Quarters based pattern-matching coverage on the backend with a 3 down front playing what's basically a 3-3 nickel package, but the LBs typically aren't stacked behind the DL.  It's a solution to defend spread offenses to get more speed on the field and defend sophisticated passing games and RPO/QB read games on the ground.

The "positionless" aspect comes from the way the blitzes and coverages are taught.  I've not been able to find as much info as I'd like, but basically they have like 5-6 blitz "concepts" they recycle each week and they can use tags to designate who is blitzing and who's in coverage to replace the blitzer.  It looks like most of these teams teach the blitzes as half field concepts similar to the way passing teams will teach passing concepts--they know they need to get a player to point A, a player to point B, and a player to point C, but who is doing what may change depending on a keyword or where they're lined up.
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General Discussion / Re: Questions
« Last post by 32wedge on Today at 10:45:26 AM »
I think the 1st thing you have to answer is how you're going to treat this spring swing competitively.  If you're using it specifically to tune up for your fall season, as you imply, then what's the use of making an adjustment just for them?  Only if you want to be competitive in both should you think about adjusting your game for both.

Oh Ballonie!

A fan tag only takes 30 seconds of practice time in O-Line individuals.  Put it in.  If you never need it, great.
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