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General Discussion / Re: Youth Coaching Hacks & Shortcuts
« Last post by Michael on Today at 01:28:48 AM »
Wouldn't they step on their own hand?

Maybe only if they're doing it right.
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General Discussion / Re: Youth Coaching Hacks & Shortcuts
« Last post by user007 on Today at 12:37:49 AM »
Wouldn't they step on their own hand?

Im not getting this at all.
that begs all sorts of questions
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General Discussion / Re: Youth Coaching Hacks & Shortcuts
« Last post by mahonz on Yesterday at 10:47:08 PM »
They could line up in either 3- or 2-point, but they're taking their 2nd step while in 3-point.  I'm just saying there are techniques while the ball is live where I have them put a fist on the ground, or potentially on the ground.

Wouldn't they step on their own hand?

Im not getting this at all.
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Passing Game and Pass Protection / Re: Hands Catching - How young is too young?
« Last post by mahonz on Yesterday at 10:43:01 PM »
If you don't, you will get beat every time.

--Dave

Here is our "wedge" play and a good view of our vertical splits. You can see the OLM are a full helmet forward from the "norm". If they all went into a 3 point they'd all be in the neutral zone.

Why? We only care that the first step is fully planted on contact because we are not trying to move Defenders. We are "running" Defenders. We teach 3 first steps depending. Climb, slide and drop. From there ....play football fast and RUN SOMEBODY!

If you ask me....our X receiver is in the backfield on this play. Got away with one there.  :P

https://youtu.be/1NoZ2UV462o
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If you don't, you will get beat every time.

--Dave

No sir. We're right up on the LOS.
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General Discussion / Re: Why I Dont Recuit
« Last post by Dusty Ol Fart on Yesterday at 09:01:04 PM »
In no way is this a criticism.  I know that some of your players have went on to success at the higher levels. In fact, I've taken a lot of what I've learned about recruiting directly from you.  Allow me to pose a question directly to you:  You go out of your way to build the best possible program for your players to attend.  Why not go out of your way to recruit the best possible players to attend your program?  It's good for them.  And, it's good for your program.   

I am not suggesting abandoning the widespread recruiting efforts.  One philosophy that I learned from this site is 'If your son comes to play for us, we will win games and play for championships.  If your son does not come to play for us, we will win games and play for championships.'

Why not go after special players in a special way as long as it doesn't hurt your general recruiting practices or, hurt your program? Yes, you could end up with a jack-ass like Ball.  But, you could also end up with someone like Kyrie Irving. http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/21705059/personal-touches-kyrie-irving-works-every-pair-sneakers-wears

I'm just being curious.


Just being curious. Father Ball is the Nut Job, thus far the son has proven not to be as such.  I am also curious to know why Mr. Irving chose to leave Cleveland and the opportunity to play with one of the best basketball players ever?  Point? Being an overt ass like Ball is not a sign of Absolution.  There are many other indicators.    I simply refuse to go overboard to coerce "Joe Stud" to play on my team.  You either want to or you dont.   
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General Discussion / Re: Youth Coaching Hacks & Shortcuts
« Last post by Bob Goodman on Yesterday at 08:40:54 PM »
So they line up in a 3-point stance and just stay in it?  Honestly Bob, I don't think you understand a thing.
They could line up in either 3- or 2-point, but they're taking their 2nd step while in 3-point.  I'm just saying there are techniques while the ball is live where I have them put a fist on the ground, or potentially on the ground.
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I have always used the 2 hand slide technique. Slide hand is only on the end of the ball, 1/4 the ball. May try the layered hand off method next year.
But, as I wrote above, even if you use the layered handoff, the player handing it off needs a disconnect technique.  You might still want to use 2-handed slide with layered.  To the player who's handing the ball off, the only differences the layered handoff makes are that the disconnect may be a little easier if the player taking the ball succeeds in getting the fingers of his far hand over the near point, and that the player handing it off might have to use more upward pressure, depending on the type of near-elbow, far-hand technique you compare it to.  For the most part, if the player handing the ball off had his eyes closed, he couldn't tell by feel whether the receiver was doing it layered or not.

Anyway, the 3 types of handing-off techniques I use are 2-hand slide, reach-take with hands at 90 degrees on the ball to the receiver's hands, and a belly handoff slipping the ball sideways hip-to-hip, elbow-to-elbow.  If I had other plays like buck lateral I might teach still other exchanges.
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I still get a kick out of you guys calling Mega Splits what is a normal split to me. The other part of the equasion is getting as much depth as the line legally can. Do you guys do that?

Joe

No.  I tend to work the rest of the line farther away from the C as the season goes on.  i.e... Start of season; the point of the O-line's toes should be even with the C's heels.  As the season progresses, the O-line is farther back.  It's more like the O-line's shoulderpads are even with the middle of the C's foot. I've never been bold enough to recess the O-line to just helmets breaking the plane because I've always been worried about a ref throwing a flag on us and ruining a play.

I've had an idiot ref do something similarly stupid to us with our 8u's.  All pre-season we went with a 2-point stance on the O-line.  First game of the season, a ref that we would see more often than not that season threw a flag on us and told me to my face that he'd do it every time because- in his words- 'That's not football.'
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General Discussion / Re: Why I Dont Recuit
« Last post by tiger46 on Yesterday at 08:06:43 PM »
The deal is when you go begging one on one due to a players ability the parents are in the power position.
They will get the impression you want and need them more than they want and need your team. I'm not interested in chasing free agents who are out shopping for the best deal.

It's been my experience that the problem parents are those kids who hav ability or are on the cusp. Then the subset of the team hoppers / what's in it for me gang.

Imo you get better behavior, compliance, retention and team unity when you recruit in mass and avoid chasing studs

The parents and players respect that you can excel with the hand you're dealt instead of recruiting your wa to a championship


In no way is this a criticism.  I know that some of your players have went on to success at the higher levels. In fact, I've taken a lot of what I've learned about recruiting directly from you.  Allow me to pose a question directly to you:  You go out of your way to build the best possible program for your players to attend.  Why not go out of your way to recruit the best possible players to attend your program?  It's good for them.  And, it's good for your program.   

I am not suggesting abandoning the widespread recruiting efforts.  One philosophy that I learned from this site is 'If your son comes to play for us, we will win games and play for championships.  If your son does not come to play for us, we will win games and play for championships.'

Why not go after special players in a special way as long as it doesn't hurt your general recruiting practices or, hurt your program? Yes, you could end up with a jack-ass like Ball.  But, you could also end up with someone like Kyrie Irving. http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/21705059/personal-touches-kyrie-irving-works-every-pair-sneakers-wears

I'm just being curious.
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