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Complimentary or constraint plays?
« on: January 12, 2019, 11:47:42 AM »
If your base run game is iso ie fullback lead/dart what would be some good complimentary plays off of that base concept?

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Re: Complimentary or constraint plays?
« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2019, 01:49:43 PM »
Toss Sweep, Counter- Trap, Play Action Pass.


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Re: Complimentary or constraint plays?
« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2019, 01:58:42 PM »
If your base run game is iso ie fullback lead/dart what would be some good complimentary plays off of that base concept?
That's like, I've got a hubcap, where do I get a car to go w it?

OK, for starters, something to make the defense play the lead blocker: a quick hitter by the FB.

Then something to get them outside-conscious: toss sweep.

Then something to go w both of the above: quick pass to a TE.

Then for when the TE gets no release off the line: out to a WR.

Then to make the quick hitter a little better: keeper by the QB on the back side.  (Seems to be my invention.)

Then a slow hitter by the FB: guard trap.  If your guards are too slow, then "baby trap" (double team by the Gs) -- another invention of mine.

Also to go w the toss sweep: sprint draw.

You could look at your whole pocket passing game as constraint plays.

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Re: Complimentary or constraint plays?
« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2019, 06:06:35 PM »
If your base run game is iso ie fullback lead/dart what would be some good complimentary plays off of that base concept?

To the outside of the Iso, as an RPO (yes, you can do this under center), run a bubble screen to the 2 receiver side and a slant/fade/out/hitch to the 1 receiver side--you can tag his route or even just signal it from the sideline.  If nobody's lined up right on top of #2, throw the bubble.  If the single receiver has a good matchup or angle, take the snap and throw the ball to him off a 1 step drop in gun or 3 step drop under center.  If you have neither of those things, run the Iso.

As far as complimentary runs to complete the attack:

Toss Sweep to stretch the defense wide
Power
some kind of Counter (doesn't have to use the GT scheme everyone uses)
Trap is good to have if a 3 or 4 tech is blowing up your Iso.
Iso Keep Pass (like Belly Keep Pass in the Wing-T)
Naked boot with an drag.

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Re: Complimentary or constraint plays?
« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2019, 01:43:07 PM »
Thanks for the responses coaches

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Re: Complimentary or constraint plays?
« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2019, 08:09:05 AM »
If your base run game is iso ie fullback lead/dart what would be some good complimentary plays off of that base concept?

Split flow zone
Counter trey
Double dive

Just a few off the top of my head
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Re: Complimentary or constraint plays?
« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2019, 10:20:15 AM »
A Toss Sweep is a Staple of the I-Formation.  If your ISO is getting Plugged up because the D is Keying your FB then move your FB to an Off Set I alignment and use the G Lead Opposite the Off Set to open it up. If the D is keying him hard, they will suck up to the FB whi is actually filling in for the Guard who is leaving to Lead. 

The "G Series" is kinda like the ISO from a Single Back Formation. 
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Re: Complimentary or constraint plays?
« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2019, 03:47:59 PM »
If your QB is a Capable runner, you can also Option off the FB Dive, Blast..   
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Re: Complimentary or constraint plays?
« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2019, 07:19:41 PM »
The Duo play has a whole package built around it that to me is must have in any pro style system .....
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Re: Complimentary or constraint plays?
« Reply #9 on: January 15, 2019, 10:47:16 AM »
The Duo play has a whole package built around it that to me is must have in any pro style system .....
Can you elaborate on the package? When I first talked to Joe about his zone scheme it reminded me of duo. We kinda used duo as our blocking scheme for power. At least it was influenced by it.

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Re: Complimentary or constraint plays?
« Reply #10 on: January 16, 2019, 02:29:24 PM »
Can you elaborate on the package? When I first talked to Joe about his zone scheme it reminded me of duo. We kinda used duo as our blocking scheme for power. At least it was influenced by it.
I am gonna respond back with diagrams Rob of a 3 play mini package of generic version of DUO -TWIN and a BOOT pass you'll see in diagrams how all 3 look a like and can be added easily.
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Re: Complimentary or constraint plays?
« Reply #11 on: January 16, 2019, 03:44:42 PM »
         Duo Series Pro I                    https://youtu.be/fF_uA-TKWnM
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Re: Complimentary or constraint plays?
« Reply #12 on: January 17, 2019, 10:39:32 AM »
I am gonna respond back with diagrams Rob of a 3 play mini package of generic version of DUO -TWIN and a BOOT pass you'll see in diagrams how all 3 look a like and can be added easily.
You're the man Tito. Thanks. So, when we ran power we used the front side combos. We had calls to call for the combo, combo off(true double), just go to backer, or chip and climb. That is how we dealt with not pulling the tackle. No need for a double if the guy doesn't need help. Thr pulling guard eliminated the zone run aspect of the cut back but we were running it as an off tackle play anyway. Usually by about the 4th play the line would just settle into a groove amd make a permanent call. With the tight splits the down blocker theoretically would collapse the inside gap of the post man with the defender. This should allow the post man to not worry about the combo. If we ran into stacks or something with tons of movement all of this was called off and we just went sab.