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Re: Southpaw at QB/TB
« Reply #15 on: August 02, 2017, 10:47:37 AM »
Last night we had 4 coaches out of 25 gone
One team was missing 3 of its 5 coaches- various odd ball stuff that isnt consistent problem etc on second night of practice

We didnt miss a beat- the teams that had more coaches than they needed stepped right in to help those that were short
However beautiful the strategy, you should occasionally look at the results.

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Re: Southpaw at QB/TB
« Reply #16 on: August 02, 2017, 10:51:26 AM »
Last night we had 4 coaches out of 25 gone
One team was missing 3 of its 5 coaches- various odd ball stuff that isnt consistent problem etc on second night of practice

We didnt miss a beat- the teams that had more coaches than they needed stepped right in to help those that were short
That is the beauty of it. Anybody can step in on any staff or any position group and do a good job.

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Re: Southpaw at QB/TB
« Reply #17 on: August 02, 2017, 10:53:32 AM »
So many youth board members are completely clueless. Coaches training is not something they see as important. They make them do the obligatory USAF bs and that's it. As an aside, while I still think the USAF stuff is a joke it is getting better slowly. Coaches are the most valuable asset in a youth org. because quality and dedicated youth coaches are a rare commodity.
What is worse is when you try to help a struggling program but they want to put "their" guy as the HC. AFTER you brought in a whole new staff and brought in new players who want to just play for you.

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Re: Southpaw at QB/TB
« Reply #18 on: August 02, 2017, 11:11:22 AM »
What is worse is when you try to help a struggling program but they want to put "their" guy as the HC. AFTER you brought in a whole new staff and brought in new players who want to just play for you.
They guy I coached with 2 years ago is apparently having issues with an association that doesn't want him to coach. The players only want to play for him. Not sure how it all played out. I'll call Jeff as he still talks to the guy regularly.

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Re: Southpaw at QB/TB
« Reply #19 on: August 02, 2017, 11:12:42 AM »
So switch up the entire offense for one player? It's a tougher throw but at that age  the kids are usually    W    I     D    E    open. I would try coaching the kid before flipping the offense. He might be able to do it without much of a problem.

No flipping. Run the entire playbook Strong Left.

Goes back to that discussion about dominant right hand or left hand. If "that kid" is a lefty...be left. Its not like the Offense wont work. Heck...you can even leave all the numbering the same. There is no rule that says odd must be left and even to the right. 16 Power is still 16 Power only to the left.
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Re: Southpaw at QB/TB
« Reply #20 on: August 02, 2017, 11:15:15 AM »
No flipping. Run the entire playbook Strong Left.

Goes back to that discussion about dominant right hand or left hand. If "that kid" is a lefty...be left. Its not like the Offense wont work. Heck...you can even leave all the numbering the same. There is no rule that says odd must be left and even to the right. 16 Power is still 16 Power only to the left.
Mike, the rest of the team is probably right handed. What about the other 10 kids? If the hand dominance thing is real in football then why not go with the majority of the team? I don't believe hand dominance is that big of a deal at most positions.

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Re: Southpaw at QB/TB
« Reply #21 on: August 02, 2017, 11:21:02 AM »
Like I explained earlier

We dont want to put all of our eggs into one basket
The main reason I quit running option football

All the years we have won league titles- we ran QB by committee- had at least 2- often times 3
Weve never been a one man team type thing- and won it all
However beautiful the strategy, you should occasionally look at the results.

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Re: Southpaw at QB/TB
« Reply #22 on: August 02, 2017, 11:22:36 AM »
Mike, the rest of the team is probably right handed. What about the other 10 kids? If the hand dominance thing is real in football then why not go with the majority of the team? I don't believe hand dominance is that big of a deal at most positions.

Agreed....unless you are a roll out Offense.

Although Jack did a study off his own film and came to the conclusion that a very high percentage of youth Offenses are dominate to their right or to their own bench. Being dominate left might be an advantage.
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Re: Southpaw at QB/TB
« Reply #23 on: August 02, 2017, 11:25:28 AM »
Like I explained earlier

We dont want to put all of our eggs into one basket
The main reason I quit running option football

All the years we have won league titles- we ran QB by committee- had at least 2- often times 3
Weve never been a one man team type thing- and won it all

You know the value of a good passing game.

Would you pass over a kid that can roll out to his left only and throw darts? Or would you create plays for him to roll out to his left in your base?
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Re: Southpaw at QB/TB
« Reply #24 on: August 02, 2017, 11:26:50 AM »
What is worse is when you try to help a struggling program but they want to put "their" guy as the HC. AFTER you brought in a whole new staff and brought in new players who want to just play for you.

i would NEVER take my players to another program without my role extremely well defined to the atomic level
My parents would never stand for it- I would just leave and take them all with me- IF I  was really the reason they joined that team
If they really were following you- then you would have the power to dictate terms- not him

Like when I was working in the consulting business- my clients would follow me anywhere- so if my employer chose to treat me poorly- I would walk with the business intact. Huge incentive for the org to treat you extremely well.
However beautiful the strategy, you should occasionally look at the results.

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Re: Southpaw at QB/TB
« Reply #25 on: August 02, 2017, 11:30:30 AM »
You know the value of a good passing game.

Would you pass over a kid that can roll out to his left only and throw darts? Or would you create plays for him to roll out to his left in your base?

Im not changing the offense- base out of left- for one player when we usually run QB by committee
If I chose to keep him at QB we could probably dust off our old Waggle pass- but not base out of Left

With the exception of just a couple of teams- we have had pretty good success building QBs using the Slack approach, especially if we have them for more than 1 season
However beautiful the strategy, you should occasionally look at the results.

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Re: Southpaw at QB/TB
« Reply #26 on: August 02, 2017, 11:37:08 AM »
Agreed....unless you are a roll out Offense.

Although Jack did a study off his own film and came to the conclusion that a very high percentage of youth Offenses are dominate to their right or to their own bench. Being dominate left might be an advantage.
That is why coach Cox made his Rifle offense. To take advantage of running to the left since most teams stack the left side of their defense.

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Re: Southpaw at QB/TB
« Reply #27 on: August 02, 2017, 11:42:17 AM »
Im not changing the offense- base out of left- for one player when we usually run QB by committee
If I chose to keep him at QB we could probably dust off our old Waggle pass- but not base out of Left

With the exception of just a couple of teams- we have had pretty good success building QBs using the Slack approach, especially if we have them for more than 1 season

A southpaw is rare...a "counter" roll out would probably be pretty sweet.
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Re: Southpaw at QB/TB
« Reply #28 on: August 02, 2017, 11:44:36 AM »
That is why coach Cox made his Rifle offense. To take advantage of running to the left since most teams stack the left side of their defense.

We only run Beast to our Bench. Its so odd  to the Defense you never know what you will get so we can now instruct our players on whom to block.
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Re: Southpaw at QB/TB
« Reply #29 on: August 02, 2017, 11:51:18 AM »
Agreed....unless you are a roll out Offense.

Although Jack did a study off his own film and came to the conclusion that a very high percentage of youth Offenses are dominate to their right or to their own bench. Being dominate left might be an advantage.
We found the same tendencies with a simple spreadsheet. I also think most good youth coaches know this so they stack up the offenses right with their best player. We did. So running left can be an advantage. Our best wing in the dw was our right wing which was done to take advantage of that. It's not a bad point. I just wouldn't do it simply because my one back was a lefty. How often is that age group going to pass anyway? Twice a game?