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sweep plays
« on: October 24, 2017, 09:24:50 AM »
Question for you guys on running sweep plays.  How do ya'll rep them in practice?  My guys seem to roll out to the edge but not really picking them up, whats the best way to rep this in practice so they'll stay on their blocks?

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Re: sweep plays
« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2017, 10:29:00 AM »
Do it in group- backs- skeleton
DE, OLB, CB

Do it with shields, then live
The key is to develop those skills during Indys

Our 4 back group learns seal blocks
Our 2 back group learns open field stalk blocks
Our 3 back group learns open field seal blocks

When you come to group, all you are doing is aggregating what theyve already learned in detail in indys
The group work just lets them see how it all looks like together
IN team- its nothing new- theyve learned all the skills they need and seen everything they need to see minus the pulling guard, who is just picking up trash OR blocking a faster MLB- IF he hasnt already been blocked by the TE on a level call
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Re: sweep plays
« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2017, 10:30:50 AM »
We worked hard on it about a month ago. First, we identify. Everyone points at their block so there's no confusion about who gets whom. Next, we did a lot of stalk blocking drills. Finally, we go live O vs D a lot.

Having said that, Mahonz posted this clip yesterday. 5 guys blocking the edge and only 3 getting what I would generously call a "passable" block in space. Still better than getting zero blocks in space, which was the case a month ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-IeOaqW744&feature=youtu.be
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Re: sweep plays
« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2017, 10:44:11 AM »
Question for you guys on running sweep plays.  How do ya'll rep them in practice?  My guys seem to roll out to the edge but not really picking them up, whats the best way to rep this in practice so they'll stay on their blocks?

Give defenders shields.  Identify the side (left, right or middle) of the defender that you want blocked.  Have the blockers start on them from fit.  Identify the duration and/or distance of the block.  They learn what the fit is, where you want body placement, and the duration/distance of the block.  Now run your sweep play repeatedly while your edge blockers start the play at fit.  When they are consistently successful with this approach, then start them from distance.  Only give them more distance when you are convinced they are comfortable, confident and consistent in their blocks.  You should eventually be able to start them from the beginning of the play.

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Re: sweep plays
« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2017, 12:21:39 PM »
Give defenders shields.  Identify the side (left, right or middle) of the defender that you want blocked.  Have the blockers start on them from fit.  Identify the duration and/or distance of the block.  They learn what the fit is, where you want body placement, and the duration/distance of the block.  Now run your sweep play repeatedly while your edge blockers start the play at fit.  When they are consistently successful with this approach, then start them from distance.  Only give them more distance when you are convinced they are comfortable, confident and consistent in their blocks.  You should eventually be able to start them from the beginning of the play.

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Re: sweep plays
« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2017, 01:18:30 PM »
Give defenders shields.  Identify the side (left, right or middle) of the defender that you want blocked.  Have the blockers start on them from fit.  Identify the duration and/or distance of the block.  They learn what the fit is, where you want body placement, and the duration/distance of the block.  Now run your sweep play repeatedly while your edge blockers start the play at fit.  When they are consistently successful with this approach, then start them from distance.  Only give them more distance when you are convinced they are comfortable, confident and consistent in their blocks.  You should eventually be able to start them from the beginning of the play.

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This sort of reverse running the play works well with all blocking fits btw. Sometimes it helps the kids to know where they need to end up. Just don't keep it static. Once they "get it" change where that defender is.

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Re: sweep plays
« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2017, 01:23:15 PM »
We worked hard on it about a month ago. First, we identify. Everyone points at their block so there's no confusion about who gets whom. Next, we did a lot of stalk blocking drills. Finally, we go live O vs D a lot.

Having said that, Mahonz posted this clip yesterday. 5 guys blocking the edge and only 3 getting what I would generously call a "passable" block in space. Still better than getting zero blocks in space, which was the case a month ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-IeOaqW744&feature=youtu.be


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Re: sweep plays
« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2017, 02:56:14 PM »
Do it in group- backs- skeleton
DE, OLB, CB

Do it with shields, then live
The key is to develop those skills during Indys

Our 4 back group learns seal blocks
Our 2 back group learns open field stalk blocks
Our 3 back group learns open field seal blocks

When you come to group, all you are doing is aggregating what theyve already learned in detail in indys
The group work just lets them see how it all looks like together
IN team- its nothing new- theyve learned all the skills they need and seen everything they need to see minus the pulling guard, who is just picking up trash OR blocking a faster MLB- IF he hasnt already been blocked by the TE on a level call

Very good idea.  Will rep this until it's right.  Thanks Dave

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Re: sweep plays
« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2017, 02:57:24 PM »
If only we had a designated WR's Coach.  :(

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Re: sweep plays
« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2017, 03:26:17 PM »
IR

Yep...that Group has been severely under-coached.

Now that Jake has the LB'rs in order I think I will help the Receivers.
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Re: sweep plays
« Reply #10 on: October 25, 2017, 09:35:00 AM »
Give defenders shields.  Identify the side (left, right or middle) of the defender that you want blocked.  Have the blockers start on them from fit.  Identify the duration and/or distance of the block.  They learn what the fit is, where you want body placement, and the duration/distance of the block.  Now run your sweep play repeatedly while your edge blockers start the play at fit.  When they are consistently successful with this approach, then start them from distance.  Only give them more distance when you are convinced they are comfortable, confident and consistent in their blocks.  You should eventually be able to start them from the beginning of the play.

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Tried this and seems to have worked, at least in practice.  I think the main problem is there's bodies running on both sides to one location and just too much traffic and then someone makes the play on D with little to no gain.  Now they're rolling out and picking up the blocks and the main thing I had to fix was the the #2 back trying to seal him in and if not then seal him out and then the #1 back makes his cut based on that.  They seem to wanna try to go straight to the sideline and a lot of times they pass right by a good hole if they'd of just cut back in.

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Re: sweep plays
« Reply #11 on: October 25, 2017, 10:16:24 AM »
They seem to wanna try to go straight to the sideline and a lot of times they pass right by a good hole if they'd of just cut back in.

Welcome to youth football.

(BTW--You can break them of doing that.)

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Re: sweep plays
« Reply #12 on: October 25, 2017, 11:00:35 AM »
Welcome to youth football.

(BTW--You can break them of doing that.)

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yeah I'm trying my best to do that....any advice?

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Re: sweep plays
« Reply #13 on: October 25, 2017, 11:09:52 AM »
yeah I'm trying my best to do that....any advice?

I'd rather know what you do, so I know what hasn't worked.  But I do know that the fence drill has its merits.

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Re: sweep plays
« Reply #14 on: October 25, 2017, 11:17:01 AM »
Ball-carriers have to have reads, landmarks, etc.  Otherwise (especially) in the youth game, ball-carriers will simply keep running until they run out of space.  That's why they "head to the sidelines."  It's like a magnet for them.  Compress your field.  Use cones.  Show him the ONE block he needs to read.  "If it's a kick-out, you have to run inside the blocker's butt.  If it's a seal, then you run outside the blocker's butt."  Practice it with two players: the ball-carrier and his blocker.  Add players as he shows his comprehension.

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