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Offline mahonz

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Re: The Beast....its not an Offense...its a mind F for the Defense....
« Reply #240 on: October 30, 2016, 02:29:35 PM »
If this has been covered already, sorry. Trying to go through the thread but it's pretty big!

Looking to add beast in next year as change-up to base offense. We run split back veer with 3ft splits, so I'm thinking the gap scheme blocking would translate well and the wide splits we would keep like mahonz says he runs it. To me that's an easy teach since we can reuse the same splits and blocking scheme.

My main question is this - if you run the "beast play" what are you running? Is it an off-tackle play where you are blocking down and kicking out like SW 16 Power, or are you running a Blast straight up behind the backs going straight ahead? I just need to know the blocking assignments of the three backs. You line them up in the A, B, and C gaps too correct?

We ran single wing last year so I'm very familiar with that offense. We didn't run Beast because like Coach Cisar says Beast doesn't gain you anything if already run SW. I think it would be a good change-up for SBV though. Thanks!

Block it same as veer but plug the sniffers into the equation would be my immediate thought but Im not really up on veer rules.

Can you explain your veer rules?
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Re: The Beast....its not an Offense...its a mind F for the Defense....
« Reply #241 on: October 30, 2016, 05:01:46 PM »
Block it same as veer but plug the sniffers into the equation would be my immediate thought but Im not really up on veer rules.

Can you explain your veer rules?

Good question, sorry. It's standard veer blocking gap scheme - gap-on-backer. Last year as SW team is blocked GOD.

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Re: The Beast....its not an Offense...its a mind F for the Defense....
« Reply #242 on: October 30, 2016, 05:03:30 PM »
Just got another reason to add Beast next season, today I was informed that one of our QBs will be moving and playing for another team next season! QBs are the main ingredient to option and option QBs don't grow on trees!

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Re: The Beast....its not an Offense...its a mind F for the Defense....
« Reply #243 on: November 05, 2016, 09:08:00 PM »
We decided to add some. Beast to our SW for extra points as they have been a problem all year. While practicing we decided to start the game with it because we can put 2 MPPers on the left side and then rotate in two more and get done with their snaps. We played the #2 seed, whose only loss was to the number one seed. They also went to our super bowl last year.
 They couldn't stop it, so we ran it the entire game and won!!
We basically ran blast, what we call beast 16, beast 18 and beast wedge.
The mentality the boys have in it is a toughness I've not seen before. It obviously works, but I'm sure our limited plays will be disected by our semifinal opponent.
What are some other plays, and what are good ones to hit the left side?

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Re: The Beast....its not an Offense...its a mind F for the Defense....
« Reply #244 on: November 06, 2016, 10:46:35 AM »
We decided to add some. Beast to our SW for extra points as they have been a problem all year. While practicing we decided to start the game with it because we can put 2 MPPers on the left side and then rotate in two more and get done with their snaps. We played the #2 seed, whose only loss was to the number one seed. They also went to our super bowl last year.
 They couldn't stop it, so we ran it the entire game and won!!
We basically ran blast, what we call beast 16, beast 18 and beast wedge.
The mentality the boys have in it is a toughness I've not seen before. It obviously works, but I'm sure our limited plays will be disected by our semifinal opponent.
What are some other plays, and what are good ones to hit the left side?
Wow, so you're actually thinking about building on beast rather than refining your more standard version of single wing?

One thing I'd ask is whether your insidemost blocking back can reach under snapper to take a handed snap.  If so, do you think your FB (TB, whatever you call him in beast) can outrun the defense naked to the weak side if he gets a good lead pass from that blocking back?  (Probably a better lead than he could get from the snapper.)

That's where I'd focus if I wanted to augment beast: with snaps handed to the nearest blocking back, going with misdirection from the deep back.  Bruce Eien has plays diagrammed like that, though I think his version has a short tossed snap to the inside blocking back.  With children and the available practice time I'd be concerned about the difficulty of execution with that short toss followed quickly by more ballhandling, but if it's an under-snapper exchange I think the plays could be executed crisply enough to be worthwhile.

Still not sure any of that would be worthwhile compared with the combined misdirection and power from a more standard single wing formation with 2 deep backs near each other.

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Re: The Beast....its not an Offense...its a mind F for the Defense....
« Reply #245 on: November 06, 2016, 05:38:28 PM »
The more I think about it, the more I'm gonna stick with what got us here.  When we get our mop kids done, go back to what works if they have stuffed the beast. It's semi final week, and I don't want to confuse the kids. Time to just keep trying to perfect what we already know.

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Re: The Beast....its not an Offense...its a mind F for the Defense....
« Reply #246 on: November 06, 2016, 09:05:11 PM »
The more I think about it, the more I'm gonna stick with what got us here.  When we get our mop kids done, go back to what works if they have stuffed the beast. It's semi final week, and I don't want to confuse the kids. Time to just keep trying to perfect what we already know.
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Re: The Beast....its not an Offense...its a mind F for the Defense....
« Reply #247 on: June 20, 2017, 12:17:57 PM »
Hey Guys,

Someone asked for some Beast video, info and playbook.  See below....

I've been running the Beast since 1994...

Here are a bunch of my Beast Offense videos and game footage

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEaSh6IHbtQ_VcwRGqQ9TA1vrQGoaCMOe

You can find Beast plays and more written info here at CoachParker.org

You can find a Beast playbook for sale here...
https://coachparker.org/defense/youth-football-offense-playbook/

Contact me anytime...

Enjoy
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Re: The Beast....its not an Offense...its a mind F for the Defense....
« Reply #248 on: August 02, 2017, 12:16:31 PM »
Going to be installing the beast this season. Does anyone have a playbook already that is available for download.

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Re: The Beast....its not an Offense...its a mind F for the Defense....
« Reply #249 on: August 02, 2017, 12:29:21 PM »
You can check out my Power Wing Beast Offense Playbook for Youth Football here....  https://coachparker.org/power-wing-beast-offense-playbook/

Free videos here  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEaSh6IHbtQ_VcwRGqQ9TA1vrQGoaCMOe

Let me know how I can help.

Enjoy
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Going to be installing the beast this season. Does anyone have a playbook already that is available for download.
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Re: The Beast....its not an Offense...its a mind F for the Defense....
« Reply #250 on: August 02, 2017, 02:54:19 PM »
Going to be installing the beast this season. Does anyone have a playbook already that is available for download.

We never bothered to write it down.  We only run 3 plays out of it, though. Beast is what you make it. I've read Coach Parker's material. Wonderfully robust and complex. First time I ran Beast, it was as a wrinkle to our double wing offense, so we ran it that way. When I first coached with Mahonz son, it was "smashy smash" caveman football with no thought given to it. Over the last few seasons with Mahonz, it slowly evolved, then last Spring, I ran it with Gap On Backer rules and occasionally, I would yell at a lineman or back to tell him who to block.

Heck, I was screwing around last Spring and installed a "flapjack pass" for grins. Installed in 60 seconds and worked . . . once.
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Re: The Beast....its not an Offense...its a mind F for the Defense....
« Reply #251 on: August 04, 2017, 10:56:19 AM »
Ive got a new HC this year, and trying to get him to incorporate some Beast.  We have been a very successful the past few years with our split back formation, so why switch (or expand)?  All three QB's moved up to PeeWee.  We have a little guy who was the qb on mites moving up.  He's not really the best choice as he isn't even 4 ft tall, or barely.  Our best RB and athlete would be an ideal fit out of shotgun in the Beast package.  And we actually have a number of speed horses to take advantage of too.  The HC thinks its gimmicky and only useful for goalline.  At the end of the day he makes the calls and Ill respect that but you have to be able to adapt to your talent each year and not force the only offense you know on the team if it isn't ideal, right?

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Re: The Beast....its not an Offense...its a mind F for the Defense....
« Reply #252 on: August 04, 2017, 11:26:26 AM »
I am really leaning towards BEAST as our back-up package vs. doing a lot with a back up QB.  I have a number of quality backs with some size, I think we can do very well getting into space running behind 3 quality blockers.

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Re: The Beast....its not an Offense...its a mind F for the Defense....
« Reply #253 on: August 04, 2017, 12:07:21 PM »
I've been running Beast since 1994. Most coaches think its Gimmicky until it rolls over them in a game and then they start running it the next season because it works.  A good Beast back knows how to run in traffic and can break arm tackles.  I've had small Beast backs before but I like full back type players at Beast Back.  Your HC should watch all my Beast videos on Youtube with all the different age groups that I g=have coached.  We score a ton of TDs from 30 and 40 yards out.  And many on goal line too. 

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Ive got a new HC this year, and trying to get him to incorporate some Beast.  We have been a very successful the past few years with our split back formation, so why switch (or expand)?  All three QB's moved up to PeeWee.  We have a little guy who was the qb on mites moving up.  He's not really the best choice as he isn't even 4 ft tall, or barely.  Our best RB and athlete would be an ideal fit out of shotgun in the Beast package.  And we actually have a number of speed horses to take advantage of too.  The HC thinks its gimmicky and only useful for goalline.  At the end of the day he makes the calls and Ill respect that but you have to be able to adapt to your talent each year and not force the only offense you know on the team if it isn't ideal, right?
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Re: The Beast....its not an Offense...its a mind F for the Defense....
« Reply #254 on: August 04, 2017, 12:09:19 PM »
This is a great plan.  We have been only running our Beast package with backups for many many years.  It is so easy to install and you can rotate many backs into the Beast Back to give everyone a shot at some rushing time.  Good Luck, Parker

I am really leaning towards BEAST as our back-up package vs. doing a lot with a back up QB.  I have a number of quality backs with some size, I think we can do very well getting into space running behind 3 quality blockers.
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